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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
    It's mostly because living in the EU gives you the Option to learn : Your Mother Language dependend on the Country, English as the Second Language (World Language to say), French / German / others being Optional.

    In Germany as example, we get teached German in School and English is one of the Languages that you're going to learn 100% (if you want or not, you can't really influence that).
    Languages such as French/Spanish and others are completely Optional (Tho is also a Must if you want to Study later on)

    It's a Fact though, that French gets picked more so then Spanish in the end.
    True, the same applies here in the Netherlands except I also had to chose between German or French on top of that, or if I really wanted, both.

    That being said, I know from experience and from plenty of German friends too that Germans don't like or are comfortable enough with English to the point of almost always picking the German client over the English one. This may sound logical, German being their native language after all, but here in the Netherlands you'll see most people actually pick the English language in a game when given the option between NL or Eng. To Dutch people Dutch gametexts usually sounds incredibly... cheesy, corny, uncool and even cringe-worthy. I think it has to do with the amount of dubbing and subbing/translating everything into German in daily life over there though. In the Netherlands, especially in Amsterdam, there is so much English in daily life that there's entire parts were you really don't need to be able to speak Dutch in order to make a living. We also usually leave foreign media in their original language and just add subtitles. Heck I can even say half the day I think and talk in English too, often not being able to find a word in Dutch, but knowing the English one instead.

    All in all, it seems to be a cultural thing, if you'll allow me to encapsulate the earlier mentioned 'daily life' in this. This is why I was guessing in my previous post things are a bit different in Spanish and Spain regarding translations. I'm not sure how much English (speaking) outside influences they have in their daily life, or if they stick more to media created by Spanish for Spanish. I'm don't know this for sure though, so if a Spanish person could fill me in that would be great. xP Germans have plenty of English influences in their life, but they have set up a very big industry of localizing and translating everything first from what I know. I think there is barely any TV show or movie that is in it's original language in Germany, right?

    Ps. Don't American schools also give Spanish like European non-UK schools give English? I was under the impression they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valenth View Post
    To Dutch people Dutch gametexts usually sounds incredibly... cheesy, corny, uncool and even cringe-worthy.
    My mother language is German and to me German game translations are also EXTREMELY cheesy, corny, uncool and cringe-worthy. That's why I play all games in English and watch shows in English too if possible.
    But it's true that even though in German / Austrian schools the children learn English very, very early nowadays, German speakers tend to be very uncomfortable speaking English. One reason surely is, how you said, because almost every game, show etc. gets translated AND dubbed. So you won't really learn English anywhere if you don't look for it. That's why most Germans are really bad at English. Even if you only know the bare minimum you can still graduate from school. So no real reason for them to even learn it properly. They don't WANT to speak English. If some advertisement is in English because it's "cool" they just complain because we're in a German speaking country so it *has* to be German. I know of some people here at about 30 years old or even younger that can speak English barely good enough to speak very simple sentences. And they refuse to pronounce the "th" sound or the "r" properly.

    If you're living in a country where it's unusual that everything gets translated into your language, you would still play FFXIV in English because you'd have no other choice and because it would be normal. In Germany, people are extremely upset if the text of a game is translated but it isn't dubbed in German, so that some of them wouldn't even play it. They'd rather take a cheesy, cringe-worthy version of the game than play it in English. So Square Enix would lose like 80% of their German speaking playerbase if the game wouldn't be in German. I truly believe it is even worse in France because I've met so many French players that can't understand a single English word. Most Germans at least understand very simple English.

    Maybe it's similar in other countries that even though people learn English in school, they can't really use it because either English class is so bad or they don't use English in their daily lives at all a well. But it seems like it's not bad enough that Square Enix translates it into those languages.

    (Btw, why is it that when doing 24-man stuff in this game and you have at least one German player and something goes wrong, they start spamming the alliance and party chat in German even though no one might understand them? xD Happened sooo many times.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limonia View Post
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    Yeah, the German friends I mentioned earlier all had to learn their English by playing MMO's. Several of them told me jokingly how they would learn English by playing these games and having a dictionary next to them, haha. To stick on-topic though, I could imagine SE would possibly add Spanish subtitles at some point. It will be a hell of a job, but they could. Voice overs I wouldn't expect anymore in this stage of the game, that would take way too many resources.
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