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  1. #111
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Theories and speculation are fun, but I'm rather eager to learn what Red Mage's actual Lore will be.
    We have some new lore, from the updated Stormblood page!

    On the eastern edge of Abalathia's Spine lies the mountainous region of Gyr Abania.

    It is in these elevated lands that people took shelter, when a burning star guided them away from the Sixth Umbral Calamity's treacherous floodwaters. The survivors gathered from near and far, and amongst them were refugees of the sorcerous cities of Mhach and Amdapor.

    These sworn enemies buried their history for the sake of the future, and cast aside their vestments of black and white. Upon the remnants of their arts a new discipline was built, and the first red mages stepped forward with rapiers in hand to fight back against the rising tides of destruction.
    So, it seems that RDM are not Sharlayan in origin, but from an alliance of Mhachi and Amdapoori refugees. Its origins lie with White and Black magic.
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  2. #112
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    Shiro--Tsubasa's Avatar
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    the only way there can be a pure support job in this game is if it is a healer due to following the trinity and considering even our healers aren't pure support I doubt we will ever be getting a pure support job in this game.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by matteoxyz View Post
    I agree except I think a support class could be accepted if it provided enough support. AST is popular for raids because of the support, even though scholar and whm both have higher pure dps.
    AST's pure DPS is actually higher than SCH's. They also have much better MP sustainance than WHM, which puts AST ahead in the personal DPS department simply because AST can sustain DPS for much longer than WHM, both in single target and AoE.

    AST is popular now, yes, but that's because it can heal as good as WHM, shield better than a SCH, and bring better support than the support DPS jobs. In other words, AST is a terrible example for this thread because the class is extremely overpowered in all fronts lmao.

    Back when it was released, despite the support it brought AST was met with high rates of rejection because the support it provided wasn't deemed as strong enough compared to its weaker healing capacities, bad enmity and MP management, and more or less clunky card system. I honestly always thought AST was fine up until 3.2, but it really speaks against the point you're trying to make that they had to make an overpowered healing, buffing and DPSing machine in order for it to become popular.

    A pure support job will never take off in this game. Also, isn't it pointless to discuss anything related to RDM until we actually see how it works??
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  4. #114
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    We have some new lore, from the updated Stormblood page!



    So, it seems that RDM are not Sharlayan in origin, but from an alliance of Mhachi and Amdapoori refugees. Its origins lie with White and Black magic.
    Wow almost totally nailed it, though i thought theyd be more like van hellsings or witch hunters after the calamity due to the calamity
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    Wow almost totally nailed it, though i thought theyd be more like van hellsings or witch hunters after the calamity due to the calamity
    Oh hell if Red Mage were a witch hunter type job I'd never not be a RDM I love that concept.

    Still though, I like the concept :3
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    We have some new lore, from the updated Stormblood page!



    So, it seems that RDM are not Sharlayan in origin, but from an alliance of Mhachi and Amdapoori refugees. Its origins lie with White and Black magic.
    Not sure I like that lore as it seems kinda strange that given the crack down on magic after the horrors of the Magi War stuff a bunch of Super mages would crop up and for reason not abuse there massive power given they would be the only real power after the end of the 6th Umberal Era
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    We have some new lore, from the updated Stormblood page!

    So, it seems that RDM are not Sharlayan in origin, but from an alliance of Mhachi and Amdapoori refugees. Its origins lie with White and Black magic.
    Thanks for sharing!

    Guess I like the Sharlayan theory a lot more to be honest, but either way. We still need more lore before a lot of questions can be answered.

    Are Red Mages Ala Mhigans?
    If yes, why weren't they displaced by the Occupation of Ala Mhigo?
    If no, how have they remained hidden for so long?
    How did Red Mages ever form after the Floods when the lore makes it seem like there were constant witch hunts against all forms of magic?

    So many more questions now...
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