Anyone else wish RDM was a PURE support class?

[Serilda]

I like support jobs but it wouldn't work well. If they slotted it in as a DPS people would complain when 2x RDM came up in party configurations. If they made a new slot just for RDM it would require completely rebalancing the entire game. People constantly moaned about the FFXI version of RDM because it was more about buffing and debuffing than fighting. Now we've gone in the opposite direction. I'm cautiously optimistic about how they realise the job for FFXIV.

[Jim_Berry]

I like support jobs but it wouldn't work well. If they slotted it in as a DPS people would complain when 2x RDM came up in party configurations. If they made a new slot just for RDM it would require completely rebalancing the entire game. People constantly moaned about the FFXI version of RDM because it was more about buffing and debuffing than fighting. Now we've gone in the opposite direction. I'm cautiously optimistic about how they realise the job for FFXIV.

My RDM was a main healer. I wasn't asked to buff/debuff until after Zilart released.

[VanilleFang]

No. Pure support would not work in this game.

[Atlaworks]

Red Mage shouldn't be pure anything. That's... not what a red mage does.

[Tanathya]

Red Mage shouldn't be pure anything. That's... not what a red mage does.

And it is what RDM is in XIV.

After Summoner and Dark Knight, I've resigned myself to the knowledge that there will never be a job that is truly faithful to the classics. Black Mage's only use three elements, white mage's come closest but somehow gained the ability to stone enemies to death as opposed to light based spells, like Dia, which would've made sense (and were in the pre-calamity FFXIV).

Red Mage should, arguably, be the ultimate hybrid. Their weapon should be swords, with the ability to both heal and cast black magic spells. They won't be, but that's really the whole point of this. A lot of jobs are just shadows of their namesake. Whatever they come up with will work with the current game meta, so I guess we'll just have to sit tight and wait to see if it's something that we want to play as.

Basically, this.

[LunaFaye]

as others have mentioned already, a 100% pure support class is not going to work. It's a great concept for group related content (8 man, 24 man) but it would be a big downer in raid environment, daily 4 man dungeons and solo play (msq, job quests etc).

Remember the times brd's lb3 was a raise/heal, and while that was great in certain situations, at the end it was more of a bother then a actual good decision/solution. It's like taking that 3rd healer into titan xtreme or coil back in the day, and while it was a good group composition when it came to safety, the actual dps needed to work much harder, due to the lack of an extra dps at that point.

And while I don't mind going way above and beyond the average people's skill level and group compositions, it leads just to much problems. I personally think that if we would add pure support classes, people would get pretty much bored after a short time. If you are looking at other games that are popular in the last couple of months/years, most have already abandon the trinity system and it's much appreciated by it's consumers. FFXIV still keeping that design, which is not bad but that means, they need to "upgrade" a little bit to keep on parse with other games out there.

[RaijinSupreme]

oh god no. That would ruin the job.

[Yamimarik]

Are you kidding me?! I'm SOOOO HAPPY it's not support the way it was in FFXI! FINALLY I CAN SAY "HAHAHA!" to all those that wouldn't let me DPS as a RDM! Finally I get my DPS RDM here in this game! I couldn't stand being Support/healer only most of the time which is why I was mostly SMN or NIN. Least I could tank/Play with my avatars lol.

[Jetto]

Are you kidding me?! I'm SOOOO HAPPY it's not support the way it was in FFXI! FINALLY I CAN SAY "HAHAHA!" to all those that wouldn't let me DPS as a RDM! Finally I get my DPS RDM here in this game! I couldn't stand being Support/healer only most of the time which is why I was mostly SMN or NIN. Least I could tank/Play with my avatars lol.

yet RDM were very much needed in FFXI.

But since you were a big time FFXI player, I understand

[Lemuria]

After Summoner and Dark Knight, I've resigned myself to the knowledge that there will never be a job that is truly faithful to the classics. Black Mage's only use three elements, white mage's come closest but somehow gained the ability to stone enemies to death as opposed to light based spells, like Dia, which would've made sense (and were in the pre-calamity FFXIV).

Red Mage should, arguably, be the ultimate hybrid. Their weapon should be swords, with the ability to both heal and cast black magic spells. They won't be, but that's really the whole point of this. A lot of jobs are just shadows of their namesake. Whatever they come up with will work with the current game meta, so I guess we'll just have to sit tight and wait to see if it's something that we want to play as.