Current primals are just introductions and the path to unlock the Extreme version. Many posters in here haven't even attempted or cleared the Extreme versions, so they don't have a good basis saying they are waste.

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Which is a bad design choice, since these are required to progress the MSQ or sidestory quest, and yet have no incentive for doing them more than once. It's not awful now, but in a year or two, trying to get a group to clear these trials is gonna be a nightmare unless you can get some friends together, or get lucky with trial and mentor roulette filling your group for you.
Titan HM can still be a disaster on so many levels today, won't matter. Yet it's required for the MSQ twice, and once per ARR relic.