Weapon(s) Lore in XIV (SPOILER)

[Cilia]

Since Ultima Weapon is the only franchise staple, I'd say the chances are somewhat low. It's certainly a possibility, but Ultima Weapon and Omega (sometimes Omega Weapon) are the only ones that recur throughout the franchise - Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, and Sapphire Weapon were all unique to VII as planetary self-defense mechanisms.

As always I won't say it's impossible, but the likelihood if that happening seems somewhat low at the moment.

[Balipu]

Since Ultima Weapon is the only franchise staple, I'd say the chances are somewhat low. It's certainly a possibility, but Ultima Weapon and Omega (sometimes Omega Weapon) are the only ones that recur throughout the franchise - Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, and Sapphire Weapon were all unique to VII as planetary self-defense mechanisms.

As always I won't say it's impossible, but the likelihood if that happening seems somewhat low at the moment.

I made the same mistake but Omega Weapon and Omega are actually two different creatures.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Omega_Weapon_(enemy)

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Omega_(enemy)

Those your head hurt yet? No? Okay.

There is an Ultima Weapon creature, an Ultima spell and an Ultima Weapon sword. And these there are not necessarily related. In VII while UW drops the UW it casts Ultima Beam, but not regular Ultima.

[Cilia]

I made the same mistake but Omega Weapon and Omega are actually two different creatures.

I am aware of the difference between Omega and Omega Weapon; however, to my knowledge there is no instance of Omega and Omega Weapon making an appearance in the same title. Since Omega has already appeared, the likelihood of Omega Weapon also appearing is rather low.

Not to be prideful, but I... really don't need the lecture.

[Berethos]

I am aware of the difference between Omega and Omega Weapon; however, to my knowledge there is no instance of Omega and Omega Weapon making an appearance in the same title. Since Omega has already appeared, the likelihood of Omega Weapon also appearing is rather low.

Until this game, Shinryu and Omega had (afaik) never actually squared off against each other.

The unwritten "rules" of past titles doesn't appear to hold as much sway over XIV as perhaps we thought.

[Balipu]

I am aware of the difference between Omega and Omega Weapon; however, to my knowledge there is no instance of Omega and Omega Weapon making an appearance in the same title. Since Omega has already appeared, the likelihood of Omega Weapon also appearing is rather low.

Not to be prideful, but I... really don't need the lecture.

That much is true, but the way you wrote Omega (sometimes Omega Weapon) made it sound like Omega Weapon and Omega are different names for the same machine. And we both know that is not true. Funny thing is, Omega Weapon would have made sense in the story as it is traditionally an even stronger version of Ultima Weapon. So pretty much the role Omega plays in this story.

[Lambdafish]

I am aware of the difference between Omega and Omega Weapon; however, to my knowledge there is no instance of Omega and Omega Weapon making an appearance in the same title. Since Omega has already appeared, the likelihood of Omega Weapon also appearing is rather low.

Not to be prideful, but I... really don't need the lecture.

Honestly, this isn't even the reason. Omega and Omega weapon could totally appear in the same game (with omega weapon being renamed to Atma Weapon), the problem is that the current lore has no place for Omega weapon as the place that "Atma weapon" would fill has been taken by proto-ultima. OW would either need to be the OG Ultima, or the allagans most powerful creation, both of which are taken

[LineageRazor]

I made the same mistake but Omega Weapon and Omega are actually two different creatures.

I've read these links, and I'm still not convinced. Until both Omega and Omega Weapon appear in the SAME GAME, as far as I'm concerned Omega is just "this installment's take on Omega Weapon", and vice versa. The fact that several have ties to the rift, Shinryu, etc, simply means that sometimes the authors decide to include these tidbits, and sometimes they don't.

It all strikes me as being one of those fanon things that people get way too worked up over. Of course, like any bit of fanon, the devs are free to make it real someday. But I do not yet believe that day has come.

[Balipu]

I've read these links, and I'm still not convinced. Until both Omega and Omega Weapon appear in the SAME GAME, as far as I'm concerned Omega is just "this installment's take on Omega Weapon", and vice versa. The fact that several have ties to the rift, Shinryu, etc, simply means that sometimes the authors decide to include these tidbits, and sometimes they don't.

It all strikes me as being one of those fanon things that people get way too worked up over.

That's funny because Omega Weapon first appeared in VI while Omega came in V. So no, Omega cannot be a version of Omega Weapon. Also OW is just a recolored Ultima Weapon while Omega looks completely different. Also I don't know where you got the idea that OW has any ties to the rift or Shinryu.

[Mholito]

That's funny because Omega Weapon first appeared in VI while Omega came in V. So no, Omega cannot be a version of Omega Weapon. Also OW is just a recolored Ultima Weapon while Omega looks completely different. Also I don't know where you got the idea that OW has any ties to the rift or Shinryu.

Slight correction: Omega Weapon first appeared in VIII. The appearance in VI was only in an optional dungeon added in the GBA version. I agree with you that the two (Omega and Omega Weapon) are entirely different though, due to the way they are both portrayed in the games they appear in. Omega has always looked mostly the same between all its appearances, while the Omega Weapon has always been a reskin of the Ultima Weapon. Both are always consistent with their namesakes in other games.

[LineageRazor]

That's funny because Omega Weapon first appeared in VI while Omega came in V. So no, Omega cannot be a version of Omega Weapon. Also OW is just a recolored Ultima Weapon while Omega looks completely different. Also I don't know where you got the idea that OW has any ties to the rift or Shinryu.

You see? This is exactly what I'm getting at about folks getting worked up over it. You're so worked up over the fact that I would DARE disagree with the fanon, that you've misread my post - twice - in your haste to try to show what I wrote as being foolish nonsense.

You brought up that Omega appeared before Omega Weapon, as though that contradicts what I wrote - when I specifically wrote "and vice-versa" to prevent exactly that.

You brought up that I claimed that Omega Weapon has ties to the rift or Shinyru. I never did. I claimed that "several have ties to the rift, Shinryu, etc". Several what? Of the collection of entities that in some games are Omega and in others are Omega Weapon. Remember that it is my point that these are the SAME legacy entity. Just in some games they appear as Omega and others as Omega Weapon.

Again, once a Final Fantasy game is created that includes both Omega and Omega Weapon in the same game, I may reconsider. Until that time, I consider them to be the same legacy character, which in some games the devs decide to make "Omega flavored" and in others "Omega Weapon flavored". Cid the Engineer (I, III, IV, V, VI, VII, XI, XII, XIV, XV) isn't much like Cid the Politician (VIII, IX, X, Tactics A2, Type-0) or Cid the Soldier (II, Tactics, Tactics A), and yet nobody considers these to be separate legacy characters. The fact that some of these Omegas share traits across installments is no more notable than the fact that some Cids are engineers.