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    Freyt's Avatar
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Never knew there was so much heat on Machinist. I just got through the 3.0 story with Machinist and by the end of it I felt like I had a fairly solid grasp. Sure there are some aspects of it that I think could be streamlined, but I don't really think it's so bad.
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Never knew there was so much heat on Machinist. I just got through the 3.0 story with Machinist and by the end of it I felt like I had a fairly solid grasp. Sure there are some aspects of it that I think could be streamlined, but I don't really think it's so bad.
    There has been heat on MCH since release of 3.0. Heck on release of 3.0 it was considered the weakest Job in the game and certain hate to it for "slowing down" dungeon runs due to being the lowest DPS job until they buffed the Job later.

    Despite the Buff the main issue people have with MCH has been the RNG mechanic on the basic 123 combo as it is a very double edge sword once ammo is on cooldown. If player is lucky they can maintain a decent DPS until Ammo is no longer on cooldown but if unlucky they end up performing the lost damage compared to all DPS Job until the ammo is back up.

    What they do with Machinist in 4.0 will certainly affect this Job at max level content more than the other Jobs due to its current position in 3.X era. Though we are still 3 months away from 4.0 release and probably only 2 months away from the 4.0 Job Skills and Artifact Armor Trailer

    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
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    It just a idea that goes back to the original concept of Machinist which was the modify the Gun for different gameplay styles. From what was said before what we got in 3.0 MCH was probably going to the AST of the DPS job involving different Weapon Modifications for different combat styles. Of course that was scrapped and we got this MCH due to the original design been too ambitious and they didn't have enough time to finish it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    What's gonna happen if SE removes the RNG proc system in 4.0 ?
    Will it attract more ppl to play ?
    or
    The already-main mch will complain about losing its aesthetics ?
    The majority would probably be more happy the RNG is gone on Machinist considering it is the RNG Mechanic that people consider the Primary issue with the Job thus the low played population.

    It is a very out of control mechanic that leaves a lot on chance when the ammo is on cooldown.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 03-31-2017 at 01:48 PM.

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    Athelisia Lumi
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Never knew there was so much heat on Machinist. I just got through the 3.0 story with Machinist and by the end of it I felt like I had a fairly solid grasp. Sure there are some aspects of it that I think could be streamlined, but I don't really think it's so bad.
    MCH is one of the few classes where not understanding how ammo works means you're really screwing your numbers over. While other classes can get away with players not understanding their optimal rotations, MCH isn't really one of them. It needs understanding.It's actually kind of fun when you understand how ammo and Wildfire works. It's a great class that does really well but doesn't have the finesse in terms of playstyle due to it's "dunk all into wildfire" style. It's a class of high ups and low downs. Bard has more consistant damage but it's a much simplier class to play in comparison? You don't have to time your CDs and oGCDs as hardcore are you would with BRD.

    As I side note: this threads is insane. People play what they want to play. Remember when DRG was hardly played in 2.0? When WAR used to be absolutely terrible? When MCH got buffed so hard that BRD was nothing in comparison (when played well)?

    Classes get buffs and nerfed all the time. People will still play those classes regardless.

    Wait until 4.0
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    Last edited by Lauren; 04-03-2017 at 08:33 PM.

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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    As I side note: this threads is insane. People play what they want to play. Remember when DRG was hardly played in 2.0? When WAR used to be absolutely terrible? When MCH got buffed so hard that BRD was nothing in comparison (when played well)?

    Classes get buffs and nerfed all the time. People will still play those classes regardless.

    Wait until 4.0
    We are all insane in our own way and what is considered sane is just a person's way of telling others what they consider is "Normal" for them.

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    Li'a Mimerya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Appart from being borderline broken MCH is totally fine. I'd say it's one of the more interesting job to play in this game. And you can still play MKN or non-DPS healer if the complexity is too high lul.
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    Last edited by Accelerating; 04-04-2017 at 03:31 PM.