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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    And if we are those people, that's our business. If you don't want to play with us people who are terrible at this game, go play another game, or start filling up that block list.
    What kind of crap logic is this?

    Sure, they can go play another game. You know what happens then? The overall skill level of players (not to mention the number) declines. That's when you get people crying for nerfs because no one can clear content already designed to be accomplished even at the lowest common denominator. That's when you get people leaving in droves to other servers, crippling server communities and stunting the party finder. That's when you have fewer and fewer people who can, or even WANT to run anything, and THAT ultimately holds back development of the game from ever possibly becoming more than it is now, or might ever be. . . If your answer to people being frustrated that others are either not putting in the effort, or not even capable is to tell them to go play another game, THAT is how you kill a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    What kind of crap logic is this?
    and what would you propose? the "git gud" logic? What if I don't want to?

    What if I'm having fun playing the game how I want to, and is willing to continue paying to play the game as such?

    I'm not the one here complaining about how good or bad other players are, I'm just having fun doing me.

    and what do you suggest to a person who is fed up from playing with other terrible players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    and what would you propose? the "git gud" logic? What if I don't want to?

    What if I'm having fun playing the game how I want to, and is willing to continue paying to play the game as such?

    I'm not the one here complaining about how good or bad other players are, I'm just having fun doing me.

    and what do you suggest to a person who is fed up from playing with other terrible players?
    What if my fun is kicking bad players who won't try because how dare I tell them to turn on Gauss Barrel or not spam Blizzard 3?

    See, the whole "it's my sub" argument quickly crumbles since it goes both ways. Keep in mind, the devs have come out and said we can kick people for any reason. Therefore, the above is perfectly within the rules. So if we're going to apply this silly 'logic'. Well... like I said. It goes both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    What if my fun is kicking bad players who won't try because how dare I tell them to turn on Gauss Barrel or not spam Blizzard 3?

    See, the whole "it's my sub" argument quickly crumbles since it goes both ways. Keep in mind, the devs have come out and said we can kick people for any reason. Therefore, the above is perfectly within the rules. So if we're going to apply this silly 'logic'. Well... like I said. It goes both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    and what would you propose? the "git gud" logic? What if I don't want to?
    Then play alone. If you come into any of my groups and don't meet the basic standards for your job, you WILL get blacklisted.

    It's my sub, I'll play how I want, and I don't want to play with lazy players
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    I pay sub, I play how I want.
    This! It's so weird to even bring that as an argument at all, because everyone playing this game can say this.

    "I play super hardcore and don't want to be in a group with less skilled people! I want my dungeons to take 5 minutes!"
    - This person pays sub and is right with the argument?

    "I play like I want and don't care about dungeons taking >30 minutes!"
    - This person also pays sub and is right with the argument?

    I think both are wrong. We all need to compromise with others, but it needs to happen from both sides!
    Speedrunners should be patient with less skilled players and slow-pace Players should put some effort to not waste other peoples time on purpose!
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 03-30-2017 at 10:05 PM.