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    Owl_Hawk's Avatar
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    Frost Raven
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Welcome to MMO's everyone pays a fee so they can play their way. Duty finder has settings that may help, read updates. As long as they meet the requirements they can use it. As for people lacking common sense. Boy you been away far too long that isn't just here but in real life and blaming a game programmer for making the game is just a poor excuse. There are different type of players and lately most of them have very little job experience do to Palace of the Dead. So blame the player not the product or do something proactive and try to teach them. I'm surprise your using DF for Alex might as well use PF like normal people do.

    Here are some tips;

    Black list >>> Kick to avoid being in the same group. If Cross servers try and be productive and set rules. Other wise ask for help from your Server / FC / Friend list.
    People lacking common sense I understand...But you can stop, or better yet, IMPROVE those people by setting up a system that forces them get better or not join that level of difficulty that content requires...If they do a test that forces them to play their role..and if they don't complete it..they must keep doing it over and over...they will most likely go search for ways to beat it or stop and actually READ their abilities, and in that process will learn how to better themselves in their job, and when in a group, all will have a great experience..but if we just carry people thru a dungeon or trial...it will not improve their knowledge...I don't like making comparisons to XI..but the BEST thing imo about that game was the "Genkai" fight...where you HAD to defeat a mirror job of yours 1 v 1 or else you cannot level and thus do endgame content...And it was hard for certain jobs...it forced you to really learn your job properly and thus...pugging at max level was the best experience i've had compared to all MMOs i've ever played..all knew what to do it was very relaxed when you did any content..no one is asking for absolute perfect play with 100% no errors...but at max level you should play your job and role at 90% efficiency at LEAST or else you can just stay and do the easier content that befits your skill level....Its not elitist..it's just being considerate to others if you are going to slow them down.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Milpitas , CA
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    Shinigami Zetta
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Owl_Hawk View Post
    .I don't like making comparisons to XI..but the BEST thing imo about that game was the "Genkai" fight...where you HAD to defeat a mirror job of yours 1 v 1 or else you cannot level and thus do endgame content...And it was hard for certain jobs...it forced you to really learn your job properly and thus...pugging at max level was the best experience i've had compared to all MMOs i've ever played...
    As per your FFXI experience I'm very familiar with it. Genkai was nice but only needed to be done once. Should of been with EVERY class. I was one of the few players who had multiple Relics and Myths So I understand your frustration. However the whole purpose of FFXIV was to be more player friendly.Yes shaving to fight a mirror fight is something that would be nice as Level cap breaker for that particular class. However, you seem to lack the basic concept that that not all players are hardcore or endgame. To be fair there are a lot of players who lack skill, yet are willing to learn and I would take them over a person who ignores team work just because they THINK they are above others. If your having a hard time finding competent people then form an FC, ask your FC, make friends and stop complaining about the play styles of others. Why should developers make the game harder when people have been asking to make it easier? Sorry I rather pay staff for new content than fix something that isn't broken. They can't help the fact that are extreme casual players out there. If anything you might consider transferring to a more hardcore base server. Common Sense ; if your paying play the way you want to. Here is a simple enough example, turn the tables, haven't you ever been placed in a position where you haven't cleared something and constantly fail with DF? and most of the PF state NO BONUS? You know you can do it if they give you a chance. What if their expectations are far different then yours and they kick you? YOU THINK it's there problem. The point is, if you still haven't caught on, is that everyone has a different play style. IF you depend on DF deal with the cards your dealt. IF you build your own party set expectations. IF this game isn't to your standards MOVE ON.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 03-30-2017 at 10:23 PM. Reason: character limit