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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaj85 View Post
    Get over it and stop crying. People can play this game however they feel. If DF is THAT much of an issue for you try going in with a fixed party. Everyone pays a fee just like you, regardless if they live up to your "standard" of skill.
    I know right. Who cares if we can't beat the dps check for normal mode Faust because dps is too low? Who cares if the tank can't keep aggro and wipes the group? Oh yeah and those healers who can't keep the party alive? They pay a sub so they should be able to play however they want. It's funny people would actually expect others to play to any standard lol. I join as PLD for fast queues, I could care less about keeping aggro, the healer can heal up the DPS, it's their job anyway. It's ridiculous that they expect anything from me smh. I pay a sub. I play how I want.
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    I know right. Who cares if we can't beat the dps check for normal mode Faust because dps is too low? Who cares if the tank can't keep aggro and wipes the group? Oh yeah and those healers who can't keep the party alive? They pay a sub so they should be able to play however they want. It's funny people would actually expect others to play to any standard lol. I join as PLD for fast queues, I could care less about keeping aggro, the healer can heal up the DPS, it's their job anyway. It's ridiculous that they expect anything from me smh. I pay a sub. I play how I want.
    You'd be surprised at how many times I seen a THM do more damage than a BLM.
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    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    I know right. Who cares if we can't beat the dps check for normal mode Faust because dps is too low? Who cares if the tank can't keep aggro and wipes the group? Oh yeah and those healers who can't keep the party alive? They pay a sub so they should be able to play however they want.
    Thats the point. Thank you : )


    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    And others who see anything said about them as nothing but an attack on their person.
    "You should better enable your tank stance" (me to new paladin)
    - "STFU!!! YOU RE NOT MY MOM!!!"


    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    It's like if you played a competitive match in Overwatch; you picked Reinhardt (or any other character) and another picked Mercy, but the Mercy only ran around with her pistol shooting enemies instead of healing saying "I play how I want" excuses instead of playing how she was intended.
    I pick Symmetra, because its fun to watch people BUUUURN under my lasers. And I dont need to aim lol >: D


    Seriously, there is actually nothing wrong, to let player to play the game like they want. It just becomes a problem, when you unnecessarily impede your own teammates with your "unique playstyle". FFXIV (and Overwatch of course) is a 90% teambased game. If you choose a specific role, YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR **** JOB! Otherwise, please quit FFXIV and play Nier: Automata, Horizon Zero Dawn or Zelda - Breath of the Wild instead.

    This whole "I pay sub, I play like I want"-discussion is present since SE stopped to implement challenging (not hard) content. The normal (casual?) content becomes easier with each patch since Heavensward. To be honest, I really try not to blame people who doesnt have a job crystal equipped or having extremely low gear or doesnt even know how to play the game, because the game didnt tell them.

    Just a small example: back in 2.1, you have to go Amdapor Keep for your relic weapon. Some people will remember the good old demon wall with adds (2nd boss), which was actually pretty hard to beat. At this point, the game told you, not to give up and put a lot of effort into the game (your class, equipment, playstyle, s.o.). And there was no toxic behavior at this point, because it so hard, that a wipe wasnt that bad.

    About 3 years later with 3.5, you have "Expert" (!) Dungeons. Ironically, 99% of those dungeons can be done without any problems, no matter how you play the game or if you ignore every boss mechanic. You can watch your favorite TV-show, while mashing 2 or 3 buttons and let your other teammates or your fairy do the job. The game told you, you can beat the game, no matter what you do. You can imagine what will happen, when those people face "harder" content like Weeping City or even Ex Primals. Wiping in such easy dungeons/fights results in insults, flames and a lot more toxic behavior.

    And speaking of discussions: All those "Healers must do DPS"-discussions are the result, why FFXIV became so damn easy. Some healers are forced to do extra damage, because there is actually nothing to heal. Neither in "Expert" Dungeons, nor in Alexander Savage (A9S for example). No matter if tank, DD or healer: the only thing that counts is DPS. DPS everywhere. For DPS-Checks, for speedruns, for fflogs, for everything.

    Sorry for this small Wall of Text ^^.
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!