Umbrites are terrible.

[Elim]

You don't get it? Haha. Okay. I'll explain again. Some people didn't like the way this step was designed.

Once again I did every other relic step since 2.0 without complaint. I simply found this step the longest and most boring compared to all the others. The other steps had more productive (solo) options, or they were shorter(aka less grindy).

Also before a drama queen jumps in and calls me,"lazy and wanting everything in one day", do yourself a favour and look at my gear.

I don't think I'm lazy, or anyone is, for not liking the way a relic step was designed. Haha.

Personally, I would have liked it if it was more like the 210 step. Of course not everyone's going to agree.

[Greedalox]

Some people didn't like the way this step was designed.

There hasn't been a step yet that some people don't like how it was designed, so that's not sayin' much.

[Nixxe]

...wait til we're three patches into SB and do it then if you're not interested in doing any meanigful content with it?

I'm not saying you should "enjoy" the grind in any way - but if you dont enjoy the playing this game like the devs intend it to (because yes, you are supposed to do content to get the rewards, go figure) then dont?
This step doesnt has to be nerfed to meet the requirements of someone who doesnt want to play the game.
You're making this step so narrow for yourself btw - I actually thin its good that the relic requires you to do actual content as DoW/DoM - because thats what you're getting the weapon for (or what it is intended for). Its not for your miner, its for your healer, tank or dps and should be earned as one of those classes.
(I'm already looking forward to your complains about the light step now...)

I promise you: It will get a whole lot easier with SB, so if you're only in for the quest, why dont you wait for that?
(To put that in perspective: I'm doing a ARR-relic atm and I'm at the anima-book step. Those books were at 1.500 poetics, now I'm paying 100)

As Faliandra pointed out correctly: Those weapons are a grind and not locked behind difficult encounters so everyone can eventually get them - to make sure that even the most casual player can get their hands on one of the best weapons in the game. And yet you come here and complain that it isnt casual enough because it requires you do to a dungeon a second time? Sorry, I really have no sympathy for you.
Wait for SB and for the relic to get nerfed even more - you can even quit the game until then if you dont like playing it in the first place...

(PvP queue times, specially in The Feast - matches are lasting 8 minutes max, rewarding you with 20 lore - are far from 30 minutes nowadays btw)

Maybe my problem with your complains is that I really do enjoy playing the game... still not super excited about a grind, but hearing thwi kind of whining ("wääähääää, I have to do something that I dont wanna do!!") from someone who doesnt need the weapon really makes me itchy - you CHOOSE to do this content...

To be completely honest, your post sounds whinier than any of mine have been. I'm not even the slightest bit upset over the existence of the step. It's just "Oh, well this isn't very fun. I'll tell Square and hopefully they'll make it more fun in the future." For something as innocuous as that, I get the pleasure of listening to you denigrate me for having the audacity to not like something in this game. If someone is being unreasonable here, it isn't me.

[AlexanderThorolund]

I beat a personal record today. I completed the umbrite stage of my 3rd anima in 3 days. 0 to 240 in 3 days.

[Vidu]

Some people didn't like the way this step was designed.
Once again I did every other relic step since 2.0 without complaint. I simply found this step the longest and most boring compared to all the others. The other steps had more productive (solo) options, or they were shorter(aka less grindy).

Well, you cant please everyone, I guess...
Right now my character is standing in central shroud, waiting for a FATE for my current anima-book - the main reason I'm replying right now is that I'm bored with standing around for 20-60 minutes, waiting for FATEs to spawn. I can understand why people dont like the grindy nature of the umbrite-step - I can however not understand why people who dont even enjoy playing the game pick up such a quest.
I guess everyone of us has a relic-step they hate, and thats okay. I for instance cant stand FATEs, so Atma was the worst for me - and I refuse to do the HW-FATEs (which, ofc means that I'll get my ARR-scholar-relic to avoid doing them for my HW-relic...)

[Elim]

There hasn't been a step yet that some people don't like how it was designed, so that's not sayin' much.

Not sure what the point of this post is.

Are you saying it's pointless to complain because not everyone agrees?

I wouldnt say its pointless because the devs listen to some feedback.

[Vidu]

To be completely honest, your post sounds whinier than any of mine have been. I'm not even the slightest bit upset over the existence of the step. It's just "Oh, well this isn't very fun. I'll tell Square and hopefully they'll make it more fun in the future." For something as innocuous as that, I get the pleasure of listening to you denigrate me for having the audacity to not like something in this game. If someone is being unreasonable here, it isn't me.

Maybe the difference between us is that I dont believe that the devs intended this step by itself to be fun - I cant imagine them being so desillusional that they're putting this in thinking "Oh yeah, people will totally enjoy running ARF over and over and over again!" This isnt something that you're doing in one afternoon and its not supposed to be - its something that you do over time, while normally playing the game and sooner or later it will just happen. I'm actually a bit happy about this step, because as soon as it was done for my first relic I sat there, asking myself "...okay and what am I supposed to do with all those lore now?" - umbrites are a good way to spend them (even for a mastercrafter, because I couldnt possibly sell enough endgame-stuff to spend all my lore)
They need us to keep playing and give us somethign to work towards - I'm really sorry but your playstyle of "Doing every dungeon and quest once" isnt good enough for them because that cant possibly last you long enough to keep playing - and it obviously didnt, since you said yourself you just came back to the game after a long break. And you were confronted with excatly the thing that was supposed to keep you from taking that long break. Maybe your approach to this quest needs more adjustment than the quest itself - not saying its a good step or that its perfect or anything, but for a lot of people its just something that happens while they're playing the game in the first place - by running dungeons, PvP, ex-primals, raids... That is whats supposed to be fun, not the grind as grind itself. If you cant enjoy that, thats fair ofc, and I do understand just wanting to see the quest (...not that I would consider it to be a very good one - even a drunken Geralt gets old at somepoint...) but if you dont need the weapon, why torture yourself by doing this quest NOW and not half a year later?

What a lot of people have been trying to tell you is that this step is a lot "easier" when you just keep playing the game an actually do content - because thats the general idea behind this. THAT is why we're getting tomes-steps in the first place, because it allows us to just do the content we want to do, as any class we want to do it on (compared to several ARR-steps that forced you into a specific class).
This step isnt supposed to be a quest that you focus on like you seem to do, its something that you work on while you're playing the game anyways. If you dont like doing that, there isnt much SE can do for you either - except ofc, nerfing this relic into the ground, pretty sure that will happen with SB, so why not wait til then?

[Istaru]

I'm pretty much done i240 anima #4. I didn't grind any dungeons or do anything I didn't want to. I completed about 2.5 of them before the recent adjustment.

It isn't hard or terrible or whatevs.

[Nixxe]

Maybe the difference between us is that I dont believe that the devs intended this step by itself to be fun - I cant imagine them being so desillusional that they're putting this in thinking "Oh yeah, people will totally enjoy running ARF over and over and

Intent doesn't matter. This is a business-consumer relationship and the point of feedback is to inform the business of how they might increase the value of their service or product to you, so as to more reliably retain your business or gain additional business from you. The business takes the feedback and then does whatever they want with it, even if it's nothing at all, while the consumer continues to evaluate the value of their purchase at every transaction. If one or both of you eventually feel like what you're getting out of the transaction isn't worth what you're putting into it, you just walk away. No hard feelings. It's just business.

[ManuelBravo]

Well, I said instances in the OP, meaning dungeons, trials, and raids, which I would include PotD in. I just didn't bother to put it quite that way in my second post. Essentially, I don't really care for dungeons

I think your misunderstanding something,

First: Doing runs as lvl 60 max has some bonus, when you do certain beastman quest, XP is converted to about 15 tomes of lore instead of getting XP. Hint are you maxed out in rep with them with all beast man?

Second : PoD is more for Max Level for Max tomes on later floors IF you have a good team floors 100-200 give nice sets and mostly are speed runs.

Third and MOST important: Relics are designed to be a grind for those who don't want to do constant savage, EX, Diadem now, and or one to create a weapon more flexible to their needs. Going from 300 tomes to 150 isn't a bad nerf. IF anything it's too much a of a nerf in my opinion.

The key word here is patience and accepting the fact that the way you approach the farming of tomes will burn you out. If I play 4-6 hours a day on my day off, with a solid group I can get close to 2k+ tomes. (closer to 3k ) Farm gear to trade for seals which I use for Crafting materials from airships to start my next one. Personally I don't like to depend on an FC, hence I started my own, one man FC, and just recently opened my doors to people to help them. Once I show them my routine they go off on their own and sometimes ask me to help them as a tank just because they know how I do runs. If you solo you are at the mercy of others for help no matter how you do it. IF you have some connections on and off it helps. 4/5 relics were done before Nerf so trust me THERE is a huge difference in time spent. On a key note. IF you don't like repeat dungeons/raids a relic may not be for you. Not to discourage you, but if you just want the achievement,glamor, story line waiting for further nerfs would be your best bet. Longer wait for them, if any. OR just do current Shire wep as an alternative and set relics as a " As I get tomes " project. That's what I'm doing for jobs all relics and will probably not even use. I do relics just for the achievements and story line really. I feel you, however unlike you I may have more patience. I still play FFXI and believe you. You have no idea what a GRIND really is unless you do Relic, Myth, Empy, and ultimate on FFXI.

As a business model, SE has a solid plan. ( I mayor in business/software engineering ) It's an option, they try to please and players still complain. Overall they are very fair and if anything making it easier. So the demand is there and if anything they are holding pretty strong because they take all perspectives into consideration. Do you have any idea how hard it is to program at times ? Trust me depending on the group, testing, debugging, I would rather spend it my time and money on new content then go back and nerf what is already working the way it should. Should they nerf it more and just sell umbrite at the mog station? If so they should make a relic weapon with less power to show difference between hard work and cash shops.