
But that's the point. With Stormblood coming out, it would be in the benefit of both parties (the veteran player & the new player) that they would be able to play the same, current content together. As much as I would like to bring friends into this game, I don't always like having to play old content that I've played in the ground just for me to be able to play this game at all with my friends. The incentive would have to be extremely good for me to do that. I would honestly need stormblood-related incentive to make me want to play anything in ARR.
And exp boosting isn't going to really help, for it would mean that even though they would be able to get to 60 faster, you would STILL have to play the old content, and complete all those quests.
I like the idea that my friends who are actually interested in playing this game now that Stormblood is coming out will be able to get into stormblood content. It would just make the experience better for both of us.Still can't fathom why someone would want to pay $70+ for a game plus sub fees and then skip over 2/3rds of it just to play (and likely be kicked for not being very good at) the first 4 or so endgame progression raids they eventually put into 4.x.But again all dungeons will be able to be done, what will not be able to be done is binding coil, extreme primals sync , or alexander. Which is a main reason to do msq to get to these things if you cant do them then its really no point at all in doing msq unless you just want to see the story itself. And I would assume that someone that wants to see the story wouldnt buy a jump potion but someone who wants to do endgame will go to the part that puts them close to endgame hence jump potion
Guarantee it'll be a lot of cases of:
1. Jump Potions
2. Small amount of required Stormblood content (not intended for new players) to endgame [a certain percentage quit here because it's "too hard" and they "don't understand how to play"]
3. End game / Progression raiding for a few weeks. [a certain percentage quit here because Savages are "too hard" and they "don't want to be told how to play their char/rotation/mechanics"]
4. "This game is boring! there's nothing to do!" [the rest quit here]
5. Jump potions do little to nothing to help grow the playerbase, and create bad rep for the game from players who used them.
6. Square walks away with extra cash for basically nothing and to no benefit of the existing players outside of alt leveling.
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Whereas if they insist people have to complete two expansions worth of content, plenty of new players won't try the game at all. Arguably the biggest complaint amongst people who either lost interest or are turned off from trying to begin with is the gated story requirements. Even in the Novice Network, I see people lamenting they still have to go through 2.1-2.55 to finally unlock Heavenward. And they actually like the story, they're simply worn out. On the MMORPG sub reddit, that is the main complaint. You need convinced people only play XIV for story when that simply isn't the case. Some only care about raids or to play with friends and will unsub once they've exhausted all the content which applies to them. People who ultimately quit because the game is "boring" will have quit long before even reaching Stormblood.1. Jump Potions
2. Small amount of required Stormblood content (not intended for new players) to endgame [a certain percentage quit here because it's "too hard" and they "don't understand how to play"]
3. End game / Progression raiding for a few weeks. [a certain percentage quit here because Savages are "too hard" and they "don't want to be told how to play their char/rotation/mechanics"]
4. "This game is boring! there's nothing to do!" [the rest quit here]
5. Jump potions do little to nothing to help grow the playerbase, and create bad rep for the game from players who used them.
6. Square walks away with extra cash for basically nothing and to no benefit of the existing players outside of alt leveling.
To take your "Why would someone want to pay $70"... why do I have to pay money for an expansion only to be forced to do 100 meaningless, boring, repetitive quests just to unlock Heavensward and play with my friends and FC members?
I was interested in doing 1-50 and all the MSQs for it and in the end I enjoyed it enough to see me through to 50. Then I discovered that there is 100 more quests to do which give hardly any XP just to unlock Heavensward. I just cannot bring myself to do it. If the quests were intertesting and the voiceover in this game was half decent (or if there really was any) I could probably do it but I found myself getting so annoyed with this that I decided to unsub for now and come back when Stormblood hits.




I'd like to fix this too... in one of the many thousands of methods that don't involve a poorly implemented jump potion
So yet again, the better solution would have been to put effort until uncoupling the MSQ from all the game features so that players can complete it at their own pace.Whereas if they insist people have to complete two expansions worth of content, plenty of new players won't try the game at all. Arguably the biggest complaint amongst people who either lost interest or are turned off from trying to begin with is the gated story requirements.
Without the required MSQ, having to level 1-60 to access Stormblood would be pretty standard. I can't really imagine many people complaining about it.



You seem to speak about the level up potion
You seem to speak about the story potionWhereas if they insist people have to complete two expansions worth of content, plenty of new players won't try the game at all. Arguably the biggest complaint amongst people who either lost interest or are turned off from trying to begin with is the gated story requirements.
Story potion and level up potion will be seperate
That would require rewritting the whole story (Ishgard would have been never closed and no Garlean borderline between Eorzea and the occupied area).So yet again, the better solution would have been to put effort until uncoupling the MSQ from all the game features so that players can complete it at their own pace.
Without the required MSQ, having to level 1-60 to access Stormblood would be pretty standard. I can't really imagine many people complaining about it.
The stories of 2.0-4.0 are connected, not stand alone stories.
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Agreed. As I said before there could have been more elegant ways of doing this. However I sense that the actual method of delivering the result does not matter to most of its opponents here. They seem to be annoyed that new players will get an option to skip the story line they themselves played through.
In the absence of there being another (more elegant) way of skipping the horrendous 2.1 - 2.55 quests, I will welcome the potion as a means of doing so. But in reality, everyone who purchased HW back when it came out should have had an option to skip this nonsense.

And how is that different than right now, or the past (nearly) two years?
Or maybe 2.0 was too long to finish to get to endgame, so they should've just scrapped the entire game and simply release a raiding MMO that involves no leveling up or effort at all. And nobody will play it.
I speak of both.
I agree that the filler between 2.0 and 3.0 is unnecessary. But I certainly don't think that from 0-50/2.0 endgame is bad, nor is the HW 2.0-3.0 MSQ. They're both valuable and interesting.To take your "Why would someone want to pay $70"... why do I have to pay money for an expansion only to be forced to do 100 meaningless, boring, repetitive quests just to unlock Heavensward and play with my friends and FC members?
I was interested in doing 1-50 and all the MSQs for it and in the end I enjoyed it enough to see me through to 50. Then I discovered that there is 100 more quests to do which give hardly any XP just to unlock Heavensward. I just cannot bring myself to do it. If the quests were intertesting and the voiceover in this game was half decent (or if there really was any) I could probably do it but I found myself getting so annoyed with this that I decided to unsub for now and come back when Stormblood hits.
I can't speak to the voice acting in English, my VO setting is permanently in Japanese as I have a basic grasp of the language and enjoy Japan's voice actors more (as I do with Anime, etc.). To that end, I find the voice acting very good when it's present. I wish there was more, but I understand the time, monetary, and technical limitations to having too much voice dialog....so I accept the compromise.
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