New player... Archer for now need some advice.

[Neela]

Bard is a fairly easy class to play but super hard to optimize. But once you've mastered being able to juggle your support options AND pull off high DPS at the same time, everyone notices.

this ^

Brds were known as lazy and weakest DDs for a long time though... but there was a change in "history" (just said history cause i don't know the exact reason/patch/buff which changed this situation) - nowadays Brds seems to have the strongest burst-dmg over all DPS cls (no matter if caster or melee) and one of the best auto-procs for their oGCD. Experienced Brds climb the enmity-bar with their opener instantly and if you really know what you are doing, you can stay their for a fair amount of time.

But never the less... you are still lvl 36 right? You have to wait for WM cause this Heavensward-skill will completely change your playstyle overall. You won't be that mobile than you used to be (and most of the old Brds really loved to be). If you still like your Brd with a caster-bar than you can archive really, really good dps in the end ^^

[Lambdafish]

but there was a change in "history" (just said history cause i don't know the exact reason/patch/buff which changed this situation)

In both 3.2 and 3.3, BRD got huge buffs, if you combine both we see a change equivilent, if not better than the astro buff.

[Fluffernuff]

Experienced Brds climb the enmity-bar with their opener instantly and if you really know what you are doing, you can stay their for a fair amount of time.

Wouldn't an "experienced" Bard be using Quelling so they don't tax the tank that much? Yknow, so THEY can do more damage, too?

[Neela]

Wouldn't an "experienced" Bard be using Quelling so they don't tax the tank that much? Yknow, so THEY can do more damage, too?

uhh sure they should - but it doesn't change the the fact, that their burst is outstanding compared to other dds. talking about enmity was just a point to proof that their dmg increased extraordinary over the last few patches ^^

[Fluffernuff]

uhh sure they should - but it doesn't change the the fact, that their burst is outstanding compared to other dds. talking about enmity was just a point to proof that their dmg increased extraordinary over the last few patches ^^

No, No. I didn't mean to imply BRD didn't have burst. It's just... as a tank player, I don't like the idea of advocating DPS trying to burst as much enmity as possible. Especially aimed towards a new player.

I notice that people like to think that the enmity gauge is a poor man's DPS meter, and that isn't really the case most of the time...

[GunksFoy]

No, No. I didn't mean to imply BRD didn't have burst. It's just... as a tank player, I don't like the idea of advocating DPS trying to burst as much enmity as possible. Especially aimed towards a new player.

I notice that people like to think that the enmity gauge is a poor man's DPS meter, and that isn't really the case most of the time...

As a Black Mage, my favorite thing ever is to rip hate from the tank. Especially when I'm using quelling. And it happens way more than it should. But in reality, I agree with you. I have a friend who plays Blm casually, dungeons, etc. and he doesn't use quelling because it isn't his main. Which I've said is not a very good excuse.

[Fluffernuff]

As a Black Mage, my favorite thing ever is to rip hate from the tank. Especially when I'm using quelling. And it happens way more than it should. But in reality, I agree with you. I have a friend who plays Blm casually, dungeons, etc. and he doesn't use quelling because it isn't his main. Which I've said is not a very good excuse.

I mean... it's amusing...... for you. and only you. mobs spin around and ruin melee. Tank should very obviously be peeved, and now the healer has to turn off netflix to keep your butt off the floor.

...actually. I don't mean to sound so heartless or anything on the matter. It is fun sometimes. It's just that rush of misguided pride sometimes. When I level up DPS, I always somehow end up tanking well up into even SV sometimes. some of my friends and FC mates have joked around how I apparently play DPS like an OT in dungeons.