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[Lunaxia]

If you can't prove a statement is...

...what utter nonsense. So every as of yet unproven scientific theory is wrong, in your eyes?

I am not the one claiming one region is better than the other. You are.

You're claiming I am wrong based on a lack of statistical evidence. If statistical evidence is all that matters in proving something right, where is your evidence that my claims are false? You have none. Ergo, by the same logic, you are also wrong.

This might have more credit had you stopped responding to me...you know if you don't care then why are you replying to me still?

Because of your insistence that I do so?

[Miste]

...what utter nonsense. So every as of yet unproven scientific theory is wrong, in your eyes?

Unproven scientific theory is just.... unproven scientific theory. Why would I think it "wrong" when it is "unproven"?

It is unproven until someone proves or disproves it. You know the definition of "theory" right?

Do you believe everything someone says or writes with no proof then??

I mean I could write up a theory saying that 20 billion light years away in the universe there is a bubble of space-time that is a replica of our Milky Way galaxy that is actually time distorted and the replica of Earth in that space-time bubble is younger and only at like 300 A.D. and is following an alternate reality to our Earth.

Am I correct??? Should people blindly believe me?? Or is it simply a theory that is unproven since no one can prove it true or false?

Only SE can attempt to prove your claim because only they actually have full access to their game/servers/community; so its the same problem where it can't be proven by just me or you and I don't think SE would bother with such a thing either.

I mean I don't get it, you are actually saying you believe everything you hear?

You're claiming I am wrong based on a lack of statistical evidence. If statistical evidence is all that matters in proving something right, where is your evidence that my claims are false? You have none. Ergo, by the same logic, you are also wrong.

It's not about being right or wrong like you keep latching onto. I am saying you can't make the the claims you are making because you have no proof to back it up. There is no way to prove it so you can't claim it. That is the last time I am going to tell you this.

If no one can prove that one region is better or worse than another that means you can't make the claim you made. Just as I couldn't claim NA/EU data centers is better than JP data centers...I can't prove it so why would I say it? For the last time, my stance is no one can say one way or another. The data centers are neutral until proven otherwise by real statistics.

You keep trying to turn this around on me, but simple fact is you still haven't provided the proof to your initial claim.

Because of your insistence that I do so?

How can I force you to reply? If you don't care then this would have ended 3 posts ago because if you truly didn't care you wouldn't bother replying even if I reply to you.

[Lunaxia]

Dear god, go outside and pet a dog or something.

idek what this is

I used it as an example of why your "wrong until proven right" argument was flawed, it wasn't an invitation to go on another warbling tangent.

To answer the your question, I believe my own experiences and those of the people around me. In general I'm not pig-headed enough to refuse general fact and then hide behind a petty reason for it.

It's not about being right or wrong like you keep latching onto

Well, it is, since you seem very, very desperate to prove me wrong yet lack any evidence to do so - something you're condemning me for. See the problem?

You keep trying to turn this around on me

The projection is strong in this one.

How can I force you to reply? If you don't care then this would have ended 3 posts ago because if you truly didn't care you wouldn't bother replying even if I reply to you.

Yes, clearly, this is not a matter of pride at all. Completely objective and unemotional reasoning.

[Miste]

I used it as an example of why your "wrong until proven right" argument was flawed, it wasn't an invitation to go on another warbling tangent.

You didn't read my post because this isn't what I said

You're still stuck on this "wrong" or "right" thing even though I've told you multiple times.

I said it is "not proven" so therefore claiming it as true is pointless since you can't prove it. It serves no purpose except to be rude to a specific region of players.

Also kind of hypocritical to claim I went on a tangent; if you recall you were the one who brought up scientific theories.

To answer the your question, I believe my own experiences and those of the people around me. In general I'm not pig-headed enough to refuse general fact and then hide behind a petty reason for it.

It's fine to believe it for yourself if you want, but you came in here and tried to pass your opinion off as fact when it isn't. So I asked you to prove it and you still haven't btw.

Well, it is, since you seem very, very desperate to prove me wrong yet lack any evidence to do so - something you're condemning me for. See the problem?

You didn't read my post or didn't understand it; one or both idk

Still stuck on that "wrong" thing...

[Lunaxia]

I said it is "not proven" so therefore claiming it as true is pointless since you can't prove it. It serves no purpose except to be rude to a specific region of players.

Apparently you have selective memory or cannot read either, as you were the one trying to claim it was a false statement. By your own argument, you cannot.

Also kind of hypocritical to claim I went on a tangent; if you recall you were the one who brought up scientific theories.

And yet you were the one who went on for several paragraphs about god knows what. Funny, isn't it?

It's fine to believe it for yourself if you want, but you came in here and tried to pass your opinion off as fact when it isn't. So I asked you to prove it and you still haven't btw.

It is, actually. You're just preferring to stick your head in the sand about it because my "evidence" doesn't meet your own criteria.

You didn't read my post or didn't understand it; one or both idk

...and do little more than conveniently side step the issue once again. Is there a point to this?

[Miste]

Apparently you have selective memory or cannot read either, as you were the one trying to claim it was a false statement. By your own argument, you cannot.

You were the one trying to claim one region is better than the other, in the first post of this string of replies, as a true statement. Which you cannot, so I told you this truth holds no water because you have no factual statistics to back it up.

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you, but since you know you can't prove it you keep trying to use my argument against me when I wasn't the one who made the claim in the first place.

I mean it was like...

You: *makes claim*

Me: can I have proof since you are making that claim? because it seems to me no one can prove that one region is better than another, we have no factual statistical data to determine that

You: no because I have no real proof...so I'm just going to drive this in circles by telling you to prove I'm wrong instead of owning up to what I claimed in the first place

It is, actually. You're just preferring to stick your head in the sand about it because my "evidence" doesn't meet your own criteria.
...and do little more than conveniently side step the issue once again. Is there a point to this?

You've been side stepping me since my first response. Have you forgotten you still haven't provided proof outside of your own and a couple of other player's experiences? If that is all you have it is only subjective and not factual proof.

Its like if me and a few friends went outside and saw a fat squirrel so we come back and say "all squirrels are fat" ....obviously that is only based off of our limited experiences and definitely not the whole picture.

So again, no region is "better" than the other unless we can prove it with real data. End.

I actually have things I need to do so this is my last reply on the matter.

[Lunaxia]

You were the one trying to claim one region is better than the other, in the first post of this string of replies, as a true statement. Which you cannot, so I told you this truth holds no water because you have no factual statistics to back it up.

stop making subjective false claims now?

Hm.

You: *makes claim*

You: I'm going to say you're wrong when I have no evidence that this is the case and ignore the hypocrisy of my argument.

You've been side stepping me since my first response. Have you blah blah etc.

There has been plenty of proof, it's no problem of mine that you're attempting to ignore it with such a tenuous argument even you can't abide by it.

So again, no region is "better" than the other unless we can prove it with real data. End.

You can say "end" all you like, it doesn't make you any more right. The amount of topics and posts on various player experiences and data on recent Savage clears says more than enough.

I hope you find a nice dog to pet, though.