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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Well since everyone here wants to pick XI's Dragoon as "the" Dragoon (since they're too closed-minded to open up to other avenues of possibilities) from here on out, I will only hope for the original incarnation of Dragoon.

    Dragoon's first appearance in FF: As Dragonriders.
    Traditional definition of "Dragoon": Mounted calvary.

    Well darnit, if we don't get to fight while riding a Dragon/Horse mount this just ain't gonna be a Dragoon. /armfold. /pout.
    Ya, if/when SE decides to enter wyverns into the equation, they better allow us to actually raise them and grow them into bigger ride-able mounts. I always hated how the wyverns in FFXI always stayed that size and even back then dreamed that SE could have had us grow them into bigger dragons. I'm thinking of Panzer Dragoon now.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Well seriously then i dont need a dragoon job if its just the same as lancer.... in my opinion.


    you all are so boring ... i love petclasses and play them with passion. reading comments like "oh well never cared about that flying thing to my side.."

    I really cant believe what i read... how can you be so "passionless"? ;D


    i loved my wyvern and the job as a dragoon.. i think its boring to only have a pole weapon and thats it...ouuh well i forgot about the "dump" useless jump attacks. well then.. i stick to play a lancer.. i loved that the dragoon in FFXI was a hybrid petclass. and i dont care if it's traditional for a dragoon not to have a wyvern .....


    with the upcoming job system we still dont have a petclass thats VERY disappointing and boring.. i dont like to have just standard classes. -.-

    Because for me a lancer is still just some kind of dragoon without pet.. oh just the ">amazing<" jump attack is missing! *sarcasm off*



    and why we doubt that? because existing classes are boring.. and with the upcoming 1.21 patch they still will be boring standard

    i just put my hope into black and white mage or bard... woho -.-
    Haha, calling people boring because they like something different than you? You're a sad, sad person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterityJones View Post
    as a monk you can find the hole and fill it with a fist.

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Conclusion: Eff off, FFXI.
    Well said !
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025 View Post
    Ya, if/when SE decides to enter wyverns into the equation, they better allow us to actually raise them and grow them into bigger ride-able mounts. I always hated how the wyverns in FFXI always stayed that size and even back then dreamed that SE could have had us grow them into bigger dragons. I'm thinking of Panzer Dragoon now.
    If it's along the lines of the mount/fighting mount a la Chocobo, fine. I don't want a pet class, and there are two pet classes under the radar currently, so -another- is simply not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterityJones View Post
    as a monk you can find the hole and fill it with a fist.

  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    If it's along the lines of the mount/fighting mount a la Chocobo, fine. I don't want a pet class, and there are two pet classes under the radar currently, so -another- is simply not needed.
    Ya i really don't care how they do it... I just wanna ride a dragon!
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Haha, calling people boring because they like something different than you? You're a sad, sad person.
    no they are boring because they dont want to be the dragoon like that...because in the "traditional" way the dragon hasnt got a pet (and i dont care about this "fact". the point that counts is called "fun")..
    And yes my opinion is that it's boring to have no interesting variety in the jobs (pet classes, hybrids)

    if you want to play a "dragoon" without pet and with just a freaking polearm.... well in FFXIV its called "lancer" maybe stick with this. and thats just my opinion.


    so and you call me sad because i have an other opinion like you? you're "the saddest person on earth" blabla... *yawn* *rolleyes*


    no i'm not sad. im really happy. thank you
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 10-22-2011 at 01:06 AM.

  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    no they are boring because they dont want to be the dragoon like that...because in the "traditional" way the dragon hasnt got a pet (and i dont care about this "fact". the point that counts is called "fun")..
    And yes my opinion is that it's boring to have no interesting variety in the jobs (pet classes, hybrids)

    if you want to play a "dragoon" without pet and with just a freaking polearm.... well in FFXIV its called "lancer" maybe stick with this. and thats just my opinion.


    so and you call me sad because i have an other opinion like you? you're "the saddest person on earth" blabla... *yawn* *rolleyes*


    no i'm not sad. im really happy. thank you
    You are too cute. Care to write me anymore novels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterityJones View Post
    as a monk you can find the hole and fill it with a fist.

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    Instead of getting your panties in a bunch about what Dragoon may or may not be(and we know nothing about Dragoon other than it's coming, it has sweet armor and a spear) and insulting other forum members just because they aren't locked into your idea of Dragoon(which as pointed out has only occurred in one instance in the series), why not speculate on what Dragoon COULD be?

    Having a traditional model of a Dragoon a la Kain Highwind as a base might offer up some interesting situations. Dragons aren't exactly the easiest things to kill, so it stands to reason that Dragoon is going to have quite the arsenal up its sleeve, whether breath attacks, jump attacks, maybe wyvern transformations or physical augmentations, who the hell knows?

    Also as others have pointed out, there will be pet classes(bet it's Tamer/Trainer/Beastmaster) and as confirmed by the Eorzeapedia interview, Summoner is coming. You might still get your dragon in some form or another.

    How about instead of being an uncreative sod, you get your mind to working?
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    and insulting other forum members just because they aren't locked into your idea of Dragoon
    i think others get insulted because how come that they can want to have a dragoon with a wyvern pet. "heresy" "the dragoon, which as pointed out has only occurred in one instance in the series"

    thats all about the argument... personally me.. i am for variety of jobs/classes... and not just only for new starters in 2.0. ;D compare the standard classes in FF11 with the advanced jobs in Promathia. which were the more interesting and most played ones?

    for me personally there would be not that much difference between a dragoon and a lancer (dragoon rip off).. regarding the playstile. like pugilist -> monk as well.. or marauder -> warrior.
    because thats what they used to be yet.

    yes they plan two and more jobs for each class.. but for now its really standard imho (maybe the real difference will come when they're going to implement a second job (in 3 years after release or so). exept the bard that will make a real difference between an archer and an archer who equips bard as a job. Or gladiator -> paladin . from a pureblooded tank into a healing tank hybrid.

    well its the matter of taste if you like a pure blooded melee class with a polearm, which we have yet in the game in form of lancer


    to give the dragoon a wyvern pet in FF11 was a real fresh idea, and funny/cool as well. i was never alone

    but well lets see how a dragoon will be in FF14. but with no real difference in comparison to lancer.. jump attacks, special attacks against dragons to make the difference? hum..
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 10-22-2011 at 02:00 AM.

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    What the hell is with all the people wanting XIV to be another FFXI?

    Seriously, you people. Yoshi-P has already said XIV will not be FFXI-2. Stop begging for it. Do you want to kill this game!?
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