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[Faliandra]

I am saying that they have figured this particular problem out better, though. Speedruns and clears are handled completely differently so nobody ends up mad.)

Everytime JP playstyle comes up, all that is ever being said is "XXX is being handled completely different." "Their playstyle differs a lot"

Yada yada yada. Please be more specific and give examples! I'm dying to know HOW it is different :<

Plz? <3

Purrrrrty please? <33

[Serilda]

Everytime JP playstyle comes up, all that is ever being said is "XXX is being handled completely different." "Their playstyle differs a lot"

Yada yada yada. Please be more specific and give examples! I'm dying to know HOW it is different :<

Disclaimer (going to use one on everything now): I am just posting this to answer the question asked. Also, not everyone on Japanese worlds is Japanese; it's a culture of the servers rather than a culture of the actual players' nationalities, for the most part.

In examples like the ones LalaRu gave, new players are treated very gently; the idea is to turn them into good players by giving them a good experience, rather than crushing them emotionally in order to increase a personal tomes/hour rate which is what some people seem to describe. Most new players are sensitive to veterans and create their clear runs as party finders rather than joining DF blind, so when you get into Castum via roulette, for example, you can usually expect a speedrun and proceed accordingly. If people aren't sure and get a newbie in a DF group, a lot of the time someone will ask whether they want to rush and the group will be expected to respect the request. Meanwhile, party finder advertisements for Castrum without any cutscene skipping will fill at any time of day, synced or unsynced; there are enough people willing to try messing around on their smartphones or desynthing stuff in their inventory while a newcomer enjoys their cutscenes that nobody has to feel forced to skip the movies unless they specifically created a speedrun group.

We also get party finders every day with descriptions like 'I suck at tanking, but I'm trying to learn! Will you come to The Vault with me and train?' rather than the person just silently joining DF, making mistakes throughout the run and getting silently kicked by a bunch of angry people who then have to wait 30 minutes for a replacement. Whenever someone sucks in a random DF group and doesn't acknowledge it themselves, people will bend over backwards to try to understand what's wrong and give respectful tips. It's never 'lololol this noob healer doesn't even use cleric stance LOL' but more like 'I wonder whether there's even time to play around in Cleric Stance a little? This tank is really tough today!'. The latter is just as pushy as the former, but doesn't immediately kick off the discussion from a point of maximum aggression and degenerate into a fight.

I know there are moody people on Japanese worlds too; if you're persistently terrible and ignore advice, or go against the group's playstyle, or tell lies about your communication skills, you'll occasionally be on the receiving end of some pretty snarky passive agressive remarks. Similarly, I know most non-Japanese players aren't bad apples; I can see plenty of kind people on the forums who are probably great in-game too. And for all I know, these positive things happen on non-Japanese servers too and the people telling me they don't are paranoid. But when all I hear is that newbies can't even use PF because nobody will join clear runs without some kind of special reward... sheesh. It really gives a poor impression of how things work on the other side. As ambassadors for the non-Japanese worlds, some of the members of the forum make them sound like very rough places to play.

It's worth adding that my original (not entirely serious) remark was based on my feelings about the chat ban in The Feast, which as far as I can tell was implemented for specifically the reason I gave in that same remark. I may be wholly mistaken but I have literally never had any kind of PVP experience in the whole time I have been playing where I felt having chat blocked would be productive in any way. Nobody has ever said anything aggressive no matter how bad a job I did. When everyone in the game has functionality removed to counter a problem which only seems to affect a completely different demographic playing on completely separate servers, it's annoying - though in the case of the chat ban I think the western players who didn't want the ban are completely justified in protesting too. It's annoying in exactly the same way that the content which rewards the stereotypical Japanese love of patient grinding annoys the bulk of the western playerbase, and consequently those who struggle to find parties who want to waste time doing that kind of thing. We get those complaints on the forum every time, "why didn't S-E realise everyone was just going to cheat at this new content before they released it?"

Well of course they didn't realise. They aren't viewing the game through the same eyes. At times, it's almost like we're playing two completely different games.