Votekick reloaded

[Vidu]

This is the base of the problem. People go in a random matched party but they want it matched the way they like it.

Then the so-called "problematic" people shows up at the start, right? Hardly I can imagine you will carry a problematic player up to the final boss, just to kick him out at that time.

If pug goes wrong, make another. Kicking people until you get all the ones you like I think it is wrong.

1) Vote abort is only available after 15 minutes - so you want to carry the problematic player to the last boss and then abort the mission alltogether so that the three people who were trying to get through dont get a reward either?

2) The purpose of DF is to make sure that we all can get through our dungeons - yes, its true that you have to deal with not having full control over the people you get paired with, but that doesnt mean we should put up with everything and everyone. Why shouldnt we remove an obvious troll, a person who harrasses us, someone who makes finishing the dungeon impossible or maybe even a bot?

3) Looking at the current system we can kick some after 5 minute, but need to wait 15 minutes to abort the mission - and I can see why: Isnt it prefered to remove the person who troubles the run so the other three have a chance to finish it?

4) Abuse of the vote kick system can and should be reported

5) Premade parties dont have the kick option in the first place (funny enough that you dont know that...) and cant recruite new members either while in the duty (unless they changed that since a friend of mine had to rush his friend to the hospital and we were waiting for the autokick because he left his character in the dungeon - just to discover that we cant search for a replacement). So if you're in a PF, you'll have to leave the dungeon anyways to find someone new.

If you want to play how you want - why not look for 3 friends who will tolerate that and go into a dungeon with them?

TLDR.: No, dont remove the kick function, its very useful when used correctly

I'm also curious now why OP is so salty about it and why they've possibly be kicked so many times they want to take our tool to remove trolls, bots and people who endanger our runs away...

[LalaRu]

5) Premade parties dont have the kick option in the first place (funny enough that you dont know that...)..
I'm also curious now why OP is so salty about it ...

Just shared my opinion on votekick as a feature and whoever disagree can do it. I feel laughning at OP (not you, talking generic) for having an opinion is not the right way to disagree, 'tho.

Will try to reason around your points:

1) is more about the waiting time for a disband. Here I can agree, 15 minutes are too much long and it happened to me too, it was excessive. And yes, only disband and after 15 minutes means have unwelcome guests all round until the end. Here you have a point and my suggestion can have sense only when that time reduced, to say, to a fair 5 minutes?

2) I disagree a bit here, you are pugging and you cannot decide which kind of players you want be paired with. Trolls and alike can happen, and always can be reported. We all hope reports gets some effects but cannot do more. A troll is a troll and I guess there is no magical checkbox "no trolls please" when queuing df.

3) goes as 1), we need 5 minutes and no more.

4) I agree.

5) I just said it makes sense. It needs be in PF because have much more sense, because have sense kick out people that are not who they needed to be, and going more far, it must be possible even when in combat. I hope not being too much funny expressing this opinion.

If I looks salty on it it is not intended. Just want share my opinion on this topic.

[Vidu]

Just shared my opinion on votekick as a feature and whoever disagree can do it. I feel laughning at OP (not you, talking generic) for having an opinion is not the right way to disagree, 'tho.

The problem with vote disband after 5 minutes is that it can be easly abused - if you dont get the roulette you wanted, you wait 5 minutes and try again. That was a huge issue when everyone was farming Brayflox HM for tomes - they might even have introduced it at that point. So thats not gonna happen.

And again: why should three people loose their (waiting) time and their place in queue because one person decided to not contribute to the run? Yes, sure, you can report someone whos trolling - but why not also have the easy way to remove that person immidiatly and go on with playing the game you're paying for after all?

I really dont understand why you want this feature removed, sorry. Again: Yes, pugging means you can get paired with anyone and if someone is kicked because of the job they're playing thats silly, but it happens so rarely that we dont need to remove this feature. Kicking someone because they're an ass, afk, DC'd or endager the run in any way is valid enough and happens often enough to keep this feature.

We ASKED for this to happen - I havent used it often myself but each time it helped the run to go smoothly and get finished. I dont see the problem.

And I'm still wondering why you thought about this "problem" at all and want a very helpful feature removed... I'm sorry but I cant help but imagine there is a story behind this. Why would someone who hasnt been kicked think "Oh, this feature that doesnt affect me in any negative way really has to go!"