The end of Playstation 3 support.

[Kaethra]

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If context and feelings matter that much. The internet is not the place to find it.

At least from me, you will not see dishonesty or lack of integrity. Not even a white lie to make people feel better. Only truth, for better or for worse. Because in the end, truth and fact is all that matters. I gave solutions, they weren't liked, but that doesn't make them less viable. Sure they might be unattainable but that is out of no fault of the suggestion, but the user's priorities which I also stated.

To be cruel would have involved a personal attack. Which I have not done. But at the same time I'm not here to be kind, I'm here to discuss and/or debate. I'll be kind in game. But we're not in game.

[Serilda]

If context and feelings matter that much. The internet is not the place to find it.

Perhaps that's your experience of the Internet, but it isn't mine. I feel sorry for you if all you're getting out of this global network of people with whom to share ideas is a battleground for making rude remarks and one-upping strangers.

Here are some everyday examples of how being 'truthful' can also just be a nice way to dress up bullying and needless cruelty.

"You know, your mother never wanted you."
"The reason they make fun of you is that nobody likes you."
"Short guys are ugly."
"If you're poor, it's your own fault for not working harder."

You can argue that those people are simply showing integrity, but that's really not how it comes across. It's spite.

(Incidentally, from my point of view I'm being honest too. Funny, that. It's almost as though we're different people with different life experiences!)

At the end of the day, it's clear that you're not going to change your mind. But you're certainly not going to change mine, so I would recommend stepping away and moving on to a more suitable thread. There are plenty of threads specifically aimed at PC enthusiasts which might be a better fit for your preferred 'solutions'.

[Texa]

I gave solutions, they weren't liked, but that doesn't make them less viable.

You said people in South American countries should overthrow their governments to make video game consoles cheaper.

[eaudaemon]

You said people in South American countries should overthrow their governments to make video game consoles cheaper.

She didn't say that...

Those from 'poorer' countries probably need to take another look at their priorities compared to playing video games. Such as taking actions to affect their political situations so they can get rid of tariffs and improve shipping conditions to lower costs.

What she's saying is that people who couldn't afford getting an upgrade should not be prioritizing games when there are other much productive things to do, don't add any more misunderstandings to already volatile issue.

[Texa]

What she's saying is that people who couldn't afford getting an upgrade should not be prioritizing games when there are other much productive things to do, don't add any more misunderstandings to already volatile issue.

"people in poor countries should stop playing video games until they personally fix their domestic economy"
Ah yes, so much better.

[eaudaemon]

"people in poor countries should stop playing video games until they personally fix their domestic economy"
Ah yes, so much better.

Still not what she's saying... "Prioritizing" is not the same as "Stopping".

I'm not agreeing with her on her stand on the current issue, I just don't want any wrong interpretation of her words, just like what your doing right now.

[Kaethra]

What she's saying is that people who couldn't afford getting an upgrade should not be prioritizing games when there are other much productive things to do, don't add any more misunderstandings to already volatile issue.

This.

When I initially said that statement, I meant voting. But getting personally involved with local politics in other peaceful means is also an option. As I've said, I've not suggested anything I haven't personally done myself. I know my mayor for example on a first name basis as well as a congressional primary candidate who is likely to be the successor to the incumbent when they eventually retire.

I wouldn't be above making a fuss at a townhall meeting if they did something stupid to the local infrastructure of the internet. Up to and even running against them if needed.

Overthrowing governments is romantic at best and stupid to suggest. At no point would I support violence for the sake of buying a PS4 at a decent price. If you want to do something dumb but effective, marry your buddy and get them over to the US to buy one lol. Its legal and doesn't hurt anyone

[Texa]

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Thank you for clearing that up.

I'm sorry for being condescending earlier. I am upset that some really cool people I knew aren't going to be able to play the game anymore because of how much the hardware costs in their countries. I still remember how sad one of them got when someone else in our FC was celebrating "no more PS3 heathens". If I had the money I'd help them out right away, but my current medical needs would not allow for that.

The situation is what it is, there's always other ways to stay in touch on the internet.

[Claviusnex]

Not even a white lie to make people feel better. Only truth, for better or for worse. Because in the end, truth and fact is all that matters. I gave solutions, they weren't liked, but that doesn't make them less viable. Sure they might be unattainable but that is out of no fault of the suggestion, but the user's priorities which I also stated.

To be cruel would have involved a personal attack. Which I have not done. But at the same time I'm not here to be kind, I'm here to discuss and/or debate. I'll be kind in game. But we're not in game.

There is something called tact and empathy neither of which prevent someone from telling the truth. Something many of my countrymen seem to have forgotten. The real uses for bluntness are few and in-between.