Healers that don't want to DPS are like DPSes who refuse to move out of AoEs.

[Faliandra]

But I just never see anything like 13 mins in any of the plus 200 ilvl dungeons, even tho I hear it all the time on here Ive never seen it.

They arent lying though. My experts always take around 13 minutes. I join as a whm doing some pretty good damage, usually my SMN or MNK (or even both) friend are with me, and they both do tons of dps.
So thats our base. Usually the tanks we get are doing fine, too. So the only thing to slow us down might be the second dps spot. But overall we already provide enough dps that the 2nd dps can pretty much twiddle his thumbs...and
we will still be pretty quick.