The end of Playstation 3 support.

[Watachy]

A MENTOR STOLE MY PS3 STORMBLOOD ACCESS

Made my day.

[Lexia]

The "pc master race" people are just upset that SE won't let them mod their client so they lash out at the console players. Even if it was PC only I doubt they would go back to 1.0 style graphics, which only the very top end PC could play. Like someone posted earlier most people probably have average-decent computer and a top end PC.

[bass9020]

It's still very much misplaced hatred. As Roth_Trailfinder pointed out, there are plenty of PC players with toasters a good bit less capable than PS4 out there.

I know thats why I'm trying to say I understand that because I was one of those people until I realized it wasn't the ps3 but SE themselves. I will never justify taking away from a group of people, but I think its not right to not allow others with the ability to reach certain specs to be able too. I know many players on the ps4 I would hate to lose them.

[Adire]

The "pc master race" people are just upset that SE won't let them mod their client so they lash out at the console players. Even if it was PC only I doubt they would go back to 1.0 style graphics, which only the very top end PC could play. Like someone posted earlier most people probably have average-decent computer and a top end PC.

PC is objectively the superior gaming platform. I hardly ever mod games and I still can say this, as a former console gamer at that. Consoles quite simply lack the modularity and performance potential that PCs have.

PS3 was just the biggest evidence of this at this time. That's why people are happy to see support for it go. It was holding back the game's growth. Even a low end PC that would've been considered low end when it was built in 2010 for example has better performance than a PS3.

You're free to game on whatever you like to game on of course, but if there's any time and place for PC players to voice their "PC master race" feelings, it's on a cross-platform game where their experience is only limited by outdated console hardware.

[Kosmos992k]

PC is objectively the superior gaming platform.

Not really.

The superior gaming platform is the one that has the games that you want and the control system you prefer. For some that's a PC, for others it's a console, and still others a hand held or mobile device.

[Adire]

Not really.

The superior gaming platform is the one that has the games that you want and the control system you prefer. For some that's a PC, for others it's a console, and still others a hand held or mobile device.

That's arguably superior marketing. Saying a console is a better platform because it has exclusives is just absurd. Consoles do have a better corporate money making scheme behind them though, I will agree there. And controllers can be used on PC so that point is irrelevant.

Can a console have its hardware swapped out and updated? No, not without using workarounds that jeopardize stability. Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time? If the game has decent optimization on both, nope. In most cases, a decent PC will have superior performance to new consoles for at least 1 generation actually.

[Lexia]

PS3 was just the biggest evidence of this at this time. That's why people are happy to see support for it go. It was holding back the game's growth. Even a low end PC that would've been considered low end when it was built in 2010 for example has better performance than a PS3.

Well I do agree with this, my PC from 2009 can run XIV better then a PS3 can.

[LunarEmerald]

I played PS3 for like a year and I can confirm it's as terrible as people make it out to be.

The game chugged doing pretty much anything. Low frame rates all around.

Load screens were long. 30s was the norm for even dungeons.

It could only display a few player characters on screen simultaneously. (Like 12 outside the 24 man raids) Making even highly populated areas feel barren.

In populated areas, npcs had trouble loading. It was a pain to get an npc to load when there were a bunch of people surrounding them.

In boss fate zergs, the boss would not load at all. You'd see a swarm of people attacking an invisible enemy while you had no way to get credit.

In fights like Ttian Extreme, it always felt like aoes weren't appearing as soon as they should. Giving you next to no time to dodge them.

I cannot even imagine how PS3 runs Heavensward content. It could barely handle ARR content.

[Lexia]

Can a console have its hardware swapped out and updated? No, not without using workarounds that jeopardize stability. Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time? If the game has decent optimization on both, nope.

Usually the average consumer not going to have built their own PC or have little knowledge about how to update if there were able. Which XIV seems to have as targeted market, the average consumer.

[Kosmos992k]

That's arguably superior marketing. Saying a console is a better platform because it has exclusives is just absurd. Consoles do have a better corporate money making scheme behind them though, I will agree there. And controllers can be used on PC so that point is irrelevant.

That's not what I said, and not quite what I mean. There are many games that will not appear on PC, but do appear on multiple consoles. Generally AAA titles appear on both types of platform, but there are a lot of games that do not, and will not appear on PC but are on console, or are on PC and will never be on console. Yes, controllers work on PCs, that's not at issue, though Windows has never liked my handy dandy DS4 controller particularly well...

Can a console have its hardware swapped out and updated? No, not without using workarounds that jeopardize stability.

Yes, I can replace the HDD with an SSD, and even add an external HDD now. I can upgrade to motion controls and VR if I want, and now I can upgrade to a better GPU/CPU without changing my games or peripherals. I get your point about modular PC design, but objectively speaking, the only thing you're really talking about there is replacing the GPU.

Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time? If the game has decent optimization on both, nope.

There are a lot of qualifiers in that statement. If you take it back to the technology, there is a fair argument for the CellBE being considerably more powerful than x86 designs of the time. But the point is that when comparing any closed box solution to a bespoke solution, the bespoke solution always has the advantage of cherry picking the latest stuff on the market. On the other hand, average gamers with average wallets don't cherry pick in that manner.

If you're gaming on a 1080 60Hz screen, why do you need the latest and greatest gaming rig? Instead of spending the money on hardware, spend it on games.

Well I do agree with this, my PC from 2009 can run XIV better then a PS3 can.

PS3 released in 2006....