Healers that don't want to DPS are like DPSes who refuse to move out of AoEs.

[Kaurie]

I think one of the biggest things people are failing to realize here also is dont just blame this on a healer I just recently started back healing got my scholar to level 60, I dont know if you guys use duty finder or not. But I cant tell you how often tanks dont use any type of cool downs and the wrong ones totally. I know this now because I main tanks now, I did two runs in a row two different drks that used freaking living dead with a full health bar not even close to being dead. Drks using blood for blood instead of shadow skin or shadow wall, warriors not useing blood bath, palis not using rampart, so please dont put this on just healers alone. Because even on big pulls tanks act like defensive cool downs arent even on their hot bars and to me this helps allow healers to open up more and dps more. But in my experience seems like defensive cool downs have gone out of style for df tanks maybe Im just having bad luck or something.

I completely agree. Even if the dungeon takes a bit longer, raging on people won't change anything. You're simply going to make someone elses day worse for no reason. Personally, I DPS as a healer, but I never get annoyed at healers who don't DPS. If it's going to be 17 minutes instead of 14 minutes, then whatever. If it's like 30+ minutes, the problem is probably not with the healer.

Maybe you have some grade A players on your server, but I have never seen any dungeon cleared in less then 20 minutes.

I see, that's rather unfortunate.

I just got done running a dungeon on SCH doing absolutely nothing but healing.
I felt like I was trolling, in all honesty. Half the run I just sat their using pet skills to heal everything for me. I think I manually casted Adloquium about 3 times in the entire dungeon (excluding between pull shielding). It was ridiculous.

Not knocking anyone who doesn't want to DPS of course. It's totally your choice. But I do recommend trying it. It's actually rather fun opposed to being semi afk.

Definitely, in expert roulettes specifically, I find that DPSing as a healer is mandatory to keep enjoyment. In content that requires more constant healing, I can see having fun with just healing. However, in expert roulette, the healing requirement is just so low, that I can't fathom how it'd be enjoyable to not DPS.

[bswpayton]

I completely agree. Even if the dungeon takes a bit longer, raging on people won't change anything. You're simply going to make someone elses day

There are some times when healers go over board one of my only wipes ever in sohm al hard on final boss healer was to worried about dpsing that I got the tank buster I was using my cool downs and then bam finally happened straight up dead

They apologized and said that they where just trying to help out but I mean if Im healing Im lookin at health bars the whole time I tend to not let a tanks health go past half personally. When I get dps happy healers where they want to stay in cleric the whole time I tend to use clemency alot more , because I just dont trust people like that what if your finger fumbles or something and you just caused the party to wipe because you where to worried about dpsing.

It goes both ways, also I dont even recall a regan heal at all could be wrong but they were a raider had the alex weapon, but Im not about wiping, Ill lose some of my own dps to make sure I dont die when I get those kinda healers dps all you want but I dont trust you enough to not start busting out mega potions and clemency or other self heals. And the quickest dungeons Ive seen go by are like those in the 50 roulette like a wondrous palace or something. But I just never see anything like 13 mins in any of the plus 200 ilvl dungeons, even tho I hear it all the time on here Ive never seen it.

[Faliandra]

But I just never see anything like 13 mins in any of the plus 200 ilvl dungeons, even tho I hear it all the time on here Ive never seen it.

They arent lying though. My experts always take around 13 minutes. I join as a whm doing some pretty good damage, usually my SMN or MNK (or even both) friend are with me, and they both do tons of dps.
So thats our base. Usually the tanks we get are doing fine, too. So the only thing to slow us down might be the second dps spot. But overall we already provide enough dps that the 2nd dps can pretty much twiddle his thumbs...and
we will still be pretty quick.

[bswpayton]

They arent lying though. My experts always take around 13 minutes. I join as a whm doing some pretty good damage, usually my SMN or MNK (or

Ive seen it all types of ways and like I said seen dps well over 2k ps and it still takes two mins in tank stances Im doing over 1000 plus I do still have kinna weapon which sucks but I pull every thing up to artificial wall and just even after first boss in sohm all hard takes about 7 to 8 mins alone so I dont get where these numbers are coming from. first boss alone usually takes like 3 mins or more so Im not following I big pull in ever single dungeon, including the very first few leveling dungeons Ive gotten out of copper bell mines quicker than some of the expert dungeons hmm I dont know. You guys must be pushing like 3k 4 k damage or something I hardly dps so I really dont know how it works for them