Healers that don't want to DPS are like DPSes who refuse to move out of AoEs.

[bswpayton]

Wait, what dungeons are taking 30 minutes? Do you mean like leveling dungeons?

Generally speaking, a Heavensward expert dungeon (during the time it is in expert roulette) takes 13-17 minutes. When Healers are DPSing, they do generally ~20% of the total. Coincidentally, 17 minutes is 30% more than 13. I'd hazard a guess that the ones where the healer doesn't DPS, it's 17 minutes, and the 13 minutes is when you actually get a co-DPS worth a damn (+healer DPS).

Ha I here everyone saying this and even on runs where , dps are doing over 2k damage sohm al hard has always taken 20 mins exactly almost every run thats with dps and healers dpsing sometimes, sometimes I feel like people make these numbers up 13 mins. There is an artificial block for every two mob pulls here

[Kaurie]

Ha I here everyone saying this and even on runs where , dps are doing over 2k damage sohm al hard has always taken 20 mins exactly almost every run thats with dps and healers dpsing sometimes, sometimes I feel like people make these numbers up 13 mins. There is an artificial block for every two mob pulls here

I didn't make anything up, and I've never seen Sohm Al hard take 20 minutes. *shrug*

[Lexia]

I didn't make anything up, and I've never seen Sohm Al hard take 20 minutes. *shrug*

Maybe you have some grade A players on your server, but I have never seen any dungeon cleared in less then 20 minutes.

[RaijinSupreme]

Maybe you have some grade A players on your server, but I have never seen any dungeon cleared in less then 20 minutes.

you must have a hard time in dungeons

[Lexia]

you must have a hard time in dungeons

No I don't but then again I'm not trying to treat this game like a job. Whether it taking 15 minutes or 30 minutes doesn't really matter to me cause I'm playing the game to have fun. If you find speed running fun good for you but if we talking about DF then going to get people of all skill levels and mentality of the game. If i was so worried about how I spent my time I wouldn't be playing video games and would be using that time to do something that would benefit me in RL. I'm sure there other people with that viewpoint also.

[RaijinSupreme]

No I don't but then again I'm not trying to treat this game like a job. Whether it taking 15 minutes or 30 minutes doesn't really matter to me cause I'm playing the game to have fun. If you find speed running fun good for you but if we talking about DF then going to get people of all skill levels and mentality of the game. If i was so worried about how I spent my time I wouldn't be playing video games and would be using that time to do something that would benefit me in RL. I'm sure there other people with that viewpoint also.

lol its not really speed running though. I play regularly as well, and what matters to me is having fun as well. But it usually doesn't take me 20+ to get through a regular dungeon on a Roulette either.

wasn't accusing you of not worrying about fun. Fun is good. fun is appropriate.

btw, you say you're not worried about how you spend your time playing this game, yet you're here arguing about the very thing...? I mean, I guess.

[Lexia]

btw, you say you're not worried about how you spend your time playing this game, yet you're here arguing about the very thing...? I mean, I guess.

I just get the feeling that thread turned into something else then original topic and people are going like "well if you can't do this in 13 minutes (or w/e the time was) then a bad player"