People afking in Diadem

[alimdia]

I'm bored, it's new, gear for alt classes, still need hunting hawk, whatever. If the entire party grinds fates, you can build up quite a ton of damaged boxes. If multiple parties grind down below together, double that. And I did leave at 30 min, if we could just leave after mission completion without penalty I would have gone then but I didn't feel like eating the penalty just cause my party was a jerk.

My arguement is mostly: So you want to do the EM, okay I get that. But you need a lot of cooperating people to finish it. So how about you work as a GROUP just a little? Cause if you hold me hostage doing nothing for 15 min, you're not getting squat from me if EM pops. I have my relic, so the little boost in stat from the diadem weapon isn't crucial to my existence.

Like Vaer said there's no penalty, just a 30 mins cd that starts right when you enter, by the time you finish the objectives this cd should be around 15 mins left.

Your logic is that since you're bored everyone else in the party should do an extremely boring task (grinding fates) for basically no rewards, and if they don't want to grind for no rewards they are jerks and deserve no help with EM, even though you'd also get 3 guaranteed i265 pieces from EM? I'm sorry but it's not your party that is being a jerk here.

You can't force people to do what you want, you can start your own premade with the mindset of grinding fates if you want, I'm sure you can find other like-minded people in your entire server. As it is the content was designed around do objectives and then do whatever you want afterwards.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

My arguement is mostly: So you want to do the EM, okay I get that. But you need a lot of cooperating people to finish it. So how about you work as a GROUP just a little? Cause if you hold me hostage doing nothing for 15 min, you're not getting squat from me if EM pops.

Here's the thing with that. I completely agree that everyone should have to participate in the mission, but afterwards, no one should feel that they HAVE to do fates. If they want to afk, or craft (what I do) or gather, that's up to them.

See, this is where the problem lies. You need to cooperate as a party to get things done in Diadem, but there's absolutely 0 incentive to step a foot outside the base if there's not a boss fate or EM going on. So when one person wants to run fates, you're SoL if no one else wants to grind Broken Lockboxes for an hour.

[Xerek]

So, basically, the i280s, the weapons that upset so many people were added as incentive to run the Diadem. Yet all they did was somehow make it harder on anyone that wanted to do anything in there other then farm them?

*slow clap*

Can we officially call this a train wreck yet?

[Exiled_Tonberry]

So, basically, the i280s, the weapons that upset so many people were added as incentive to run the Diadem. Yet all they did was somehow make it harder on anyone that wanted to do anything in there other then farm them?

*slow clap*

Can we officially call this a train wreck yet?

You know they fucked up when people prefer 1.0 farming dinosaurs for hours over this.

I'm so scared for Eureka after this. PoTD must have been a lucky toss because SE has proved time and time again side content is not their strong point with this game.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

You can't force people to do what you want, you can start your own premade with the mindset of grinding fates if you want, I'm sure you can find other like-minded people in your entire server. As it is the content was designed around do objectives and then do whatever you want afterwards.

I absolutely agree because going in with random people is complete chaos. I never had such a smooth run in Diadem until I went with my FC buddies. We did our objectives, grind a few fates, and to add a cherry on top, an EM mission popped and we beat it with no troubles at all. We left afterwards because we did what we wanted to do.

Oh and I can definitely say that I'm happy with my Anima weapon because the 280 wep for my main dropped. I didn't get it but the person who did says that the stats were bad. They linked it in the chat, and they weren't lying.

[Tsumdere]

Finally saw my first EM but there was only 10 people left out of 72. Needless to say, we wiped.

[ShinMetsu]

I don't see a problem with people afking for diadem.
Although it's probably rude to queue with random people and going afk straight away, probably best to help out with the mission objectives first in case the majority of the party wants to do it.

And if you want to do the Emergency Mission, you're better off not kicking the afk person to be honest, as he can help for the EM.
It's not efficient in any way, it's simply to appease your urge to cause harm to him.
On top of that you lose a LB bar.

It doesn't hurt you to not kick the afk person, instead you just gimp yourself by kicking him.
Whether you have 1 afk person or a 7 people party, it's the same. You don't lose anything by keeping him.

[RaijinSupreme]

Or how about after the objectives are completed entire parties leave making it that more difficult to complete the Emergency Mission if it pops.

honestly, I would too. Its just a waste of time. The chance of actually getting the weapon is too low for anyone to take it seriously. There are other things I'd rather do than just set myself up for disappointment.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I don't want to make my own topic for this, so I'm just going to say this here.

I'm not exactly sure what's the bigger issue here. People afk because they have no desire for the mission rewards/fate grinding or people leaving the instance right after the mission is completed, leaving you with a fragmented party that can't participate in boss fates and EMs at all.

This was obvious already, but after witnessing both situations multiple times, I have to say, Diadem 2.0 is very poorly implemented.

You have two groups of people who are in the place for two different reasons. One group wants brass spoils and, possibly, to farm fates for more Lockboxes. The other only has interests in EMs and possibly boss fates. These two groups don't mix well at all because the guys there for their guaranteed 10 lockboxes will leave as soon as that drops, leaving the other group wanting to participate in EMs behind.

I know SE probably doesn't care what they give us this close to SB, but jeez. At least let us add members from the duty finder menu. Or better yet, let us join other parties inside the Diadem, so by the time an EM spawns, we're not left with a party consisting of 3 DPS.