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  1. #1
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    Amariel34's Avatar
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    J'inwa Dakari
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Matron is for gatherers
    Ah, I didn't know this. Someone just said to do that one cause EMs seem to spawn more often there. I'll try Fury then. Thank you.
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    Rokke's Avatar
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    This is something they should address, missions are the main thing in Diadem, people who do participate should be reportable or they should not get any loot.
    I really hope they do. In one run I had 2 dps immediately park themselves on NPC island. Even after the other healer switched jobs we struggled through the entire mission, and leaving wasn't an option because of the 30 minute lockout
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    Kiriezaiku's Avatar
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    Ayumu Kuroneko
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Why do you want to farm boxes anyways? You only get 2-10 damaged boxes per fate and you need 40 to turn in, if you want loot you're better off leaving and reentering at the 30 mins mark so you get 10 guaranteed loot boxes. 10 guaranteed boxes = 400 damaged, and you won't get 400 damaged farming fates, so you get far more loot just doing the mission over and over.
    I'm bored, it's new, gear for alt classes, still need hunting hawk, whatever. If the entire party grinds fates, you can build up quite a ton of damaged boxes. If multiple parties grind down below together, double that. And I did leave at 30 min, if we could just leave after mission completion without penalty I would have gone then but I didn't feel like eating the penalty just cause my party was a jerk.

    My arguement is mostly: So you want to do the EM, okay I get that. But you need a lot of cooperating people to finish it. So how about you work as a GROUP just a little? Cause if you hold me hostage doing nothing for 15 min, you're not getting squat from me if EM pops. I have my relic, so the little boost in stat from the diadem weapon isn't crucial to my existence.
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    Last edited by Kiriezaiku; 03-13-2017 at 04:32 AM. Reason: stuff

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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriezaiku View Post
    If we could just leave after mission completion without penalty I would have gone then but I didn't feel like eating the penalty just cause my party was a jerk.
    Actually there is no penalty (lockout) for leaving after the mission is done (sack spawns and you get your loot). The only thing is the 30 min cooldown on entry that might still be counting down since runs average 10-20 min so you would have to wait to requeue.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 03-13-2017 at 04:37 AM.

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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriezaiku View Post
    I'm bored, it's new, gear for alt classes, still need hunting hawk, whatever. If the entire party grinds fates, you can build up quite a ton of damaged boxes. If multiple parties grind down below together, double that. And I did leave at 30 min, if we could just leave after mission completion without penalty I would have gone then but I didn't feel like eating the penalty just cause my party was a jerk.

    My arguement is mostly: So you want to do the EM, okay I get that. But you need a lot of cooperating people to finish it. So how about you work as a GROUP just a little? Cause if you hold me hostage doing nothing for 15 min, you're not getting squat from me if EM pops. I have my relic, so the little boost in stat from the diadem weapon isn't crucial to my existence.
    Like Vaer said there's no penalty, just a 30 mins cd that starts right when you enter, by the time you finish the objectives this cd should be around 15 mins left.

    Your logic is that since you're bored everyone else in the party should do an extremely boring task (grinding fates) for basically no rewards, and if they don't want to grind for no rewards they are jerks and deserve no help with EM, even though you'd also get 3 guaranteed i265 pieces from EM? I'm sorry but it's not your party that is being a jerk here.

    You can't force people to do what you want, you can start your own premade with the mindset of grinding fates if you want, I'm sure you can find other like-minded people in your entire server. As it is the content was designed around do objectives and then do whatever you want afterwards.
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    DreamAngel-Ren's Avatar
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    Ren Kurosaki
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    You can't force people to do what you want, you can start your own premade with the mindset of grinding fates if you want, I'm sure you can find other like-minded people in your entire server. As it is the content was designed around do objectives and then do whatever you want afterwards.
    I absolutely agree because going in with random people is complete chaos. I never had such a smooth run in Diadem until I went with my FC buddies. We did our objectives, grind a few fates, and to add a cherry on top, an EM mission popped and we beat it with no troubles at all. We left afterwards because we did what we wanted to do.

    Oh and I can definitely say that I'm happy with my Anima weapon because the 280 wep for my main dropped. I didn't get it but the person who did says that the stats were bad. They linked it in the chat, and they weren't lying.
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    Last edited by DreamAngel-Ren; 03-13-2017 at 08:18 AM.

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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I suppose that can have a 2min afk auto kick that exists in Frontlines, though that can easily be circumvented via running to a wall or jumping every min ... but it's something.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Sadly, this was bound to happen. FATEs are notoriously hated and the only real complying reason to queue into Diadem is the Emergency Mission. That doesn't make it right, of course, but there needs to me more incentive to actually do things.
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriezaiku View Post
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    Get in, finish the mission in about 12 min, everyone flies up to check their loot. And then nothing, just standing there. I ask them if we're gonna do some fates for more boxes or if they intend on sitting on their butts for the rest of the run, they declare butts indeed.
    Sigh. So so SO disappointing that SE opted to just shove high level weapons in here for incentive rather than make fun content everyone can do. Sigh. This is what happens when you make raiders who only want the weapons feel forced to run this type of content
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    They should make Fate worth doing it, or open a hunt for big mobs with better rewards than fates.
    Something that make us worth waiting for the emergency mission.
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