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    Quote Originally Posted by PondHollow View Post
    Not doing damage as a DPS and focusing on DPS as a tank are not comparable to not DPSing as a healer. Excellent healers attack. Good healers keep the party alive.
    No player can be classified as good if they ignore a third of their toolkit and spend half the fight standing around doing nothing. By technical definition, a tank only has to maintain aggro. I can easily do that by spamming Flash. Not using cooldowns does not mean I'll lose hate. It only makes the job harder for the healer. Likewise, my only requirement as a DPS is to deal damage. There is not stipulation on how much damage that entails.

    This has been an ongoing debate on the healer forum. Someone made a video where she did Xelphatol with FC members and literally spent 80% of the dungeon jumping around the map and spamming emotes. Her contributions were that low. Does this sound like a good player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    No player can be classified as good if they ignore a third of their toolkit and spend half the fight standing around doing nothing. By technical definition, a tank only has to maintain aggro. I can easily do that by spamming Flash. Not using cooldowns does not mean I'll lose hate. It only makes the job harder for the healer. Likewise, my only requirement as a DPS is to deal damage. There is not stipulation on how much damage that entails.

    This has been an ongoing debate on the healer forum. Someone made a video where she did Xelphatol with FC members and literally spent 80% of the dungeon jumping around the map and spamming emotes. Her contributions were that low. Does this sound like a good player?
    where is this? can i get a link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    where is this? can i get a link?
    Was looking for it actually. Found it!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    If they didn't let anyone die then yeah, yeah they do sound like a good player.
    Does this criteria apply to tanks? As per my example, a tank spamming Flash will maintain aggro. I guess that makes them a good player too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Was looking for it actually. Found it!
    I actually wanted see the thread but this will do *watches*
    can I have a link to where this was in a thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    I actually wanted see the thread but this will do *watches*
    can I have a link to where this was in a thread?
    Oh, in that case: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ew-perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This has been an ongoing debate on the healer forum. Someone made a video where she did Xelphatol with FC members and literally spent 80% of the dungeon jumping around the map and spamming emotes. Her contributions were that low. Does this sound like a good player?
    If they didn't let anyone die then yeah, yeah they do sound like a good player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    If they didn't let anyone die then yeah, yeah they do sound like a good player.
    So the godly dps matchign buttons every 1-2 seconds is less then a good player then one that hits one every 5 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    So the godly dps matchign buttons every 1-2 seconds is less then a good player then one that hits one every 5 minutes?

    Hyperbole really isn't a good way to argue your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    Hyperbole really isn't a good way to argue your point.
    Still a valid point, if your point is that no one dies = did a good job, then a monster dying 5 times slower should not be a problem, it still died and the DPS did his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Still a valid point, if your point is that no one dies = did a good job, then a monster dying 5 times slower should not be a problem, it still died and the DPS did his job.
    I learned to ignore him a long time ago. He has issues with me. Also it is not an over exaggeration or at least it did not feel that way. I got some good war tanks where I did not have to heal at all in a large over pull. Why do people overuse Hyperbole on these forums anyway? Also the vid Bourne_Endeavor linked reinforces the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Couldn't found the post but i saw one about antitower.

    Also about the vid, i learned a new command, /icam
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