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    You are talking about the same person that decided that the solution for AST problems for this expansion was giving him so many buffs that people would take it instead of WHM. I don't trust his judgement on class balancing since this Q&A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    You are talking about the same person that decided that the solution for AST problems for this expansion was giving him so many buffs that people would take it instead of WHM. I don't trust his judgement on class balancing since this Q&A.
    Coming from a community that wouldn't even give AST a chance until it was buffed to be as potent as a WHM. Not like the community can agree on something for even five seconds. I wonder if that's why the only suggestions Yoshida actually seems to entertain are silly things like glamour or mounts from the NA area?

    The player-base is truly spoiled.

    Still, all Yoshida said he really doesn't like cleric stance (probably doesn't actually have an issue with it, just what the player base has turned it into) and that healers are supposed to keep their party alive first. Then they can consider DPSing. He's making a comment how healers will sacrifice teammates for mistakes that were preventable, among other issues that do happen because "my healer DPS."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Coming from a community that wouldn't even give AST a chance until it was buffed to be as potent as a WHM. Not like the community cam agree on something for even five seconds. I wonder if that's why the only suggestions Yoshida actually seems to entertain are silly things like glamour or mounts from the NA area?

    The player-base is truly spoiled.
    Are you implying AST was anything but garbage until the buffs? Because what you had with an early AST was a crappier WHM with card buffs that did very little, took forever to draw and lasted barely any time or you'd have that plus a Scholar with weaker barriers and no fairy.

    If you wanted a limited and gimped healer, AST was great in 3.0 and 3.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Are you implying AST was anything but garbage until the buffs? Because what you had with an early AST was a crappier WHM with card buffs that did very little, took forever to draw and lasted barely any time or you'd have that plus a Scholar with weaker barriers and no fairy.

    If you wanted a limited and gimped healer, AST was great in 3.0 and 3.1
    SE had to reduce the AST's skill curve just to get people to play it because it wasn't friendly to use to a large group of people. AST shone on players that were solid healers that knew what you were doing- anything less and it showed quite starkly.

    Even after the first round of buffs, a startlingly large amount of people were still unwilling to bring ASTs into content, despite being just as good as a WHM even then and shielding better than a SCH even then. Then 3.4 came and the buffs were just overkill and finally people started to take them.

    So no, it's not about wanting a gimped healer, just sadly anything different gets shot down by the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    So no, it's not about wanting a gimped healer, just sadly anything different gets shot down by the community.
    I both agree and disagree with you.

    Before the first round of buffs AST was just plain bad, there's no ifs or buts, it was inferior to both other healers and there was no reason to raid with it, after the first round of buffs AST became on par with the other healers, and here's where I agree with you that people went too stubborn, as usual people resist change, they saw WHM + SCH worked fine and saw no reason to replace either with AST, and it took until they pretty much broke AST in terms of support to finally be fully accepted.
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