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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    These weapons are going to be rare for a long time because of drop rates and RNG.
    Does that matter...?

    It's a matter of principles. For all I care, they could put a BiS weapon into the cash shop at a high price - I can tell you those would be rare as well and it would affect me no bit more than those Diadem weapons. Moreover, they, too, would be outdated at some point anyway, so you can even bring that argument. But I'm very sure the forums would be on fire if SE were to do such a thing. Why? Principles. In this case, people think SE should not sell power "on principle".
    In the case of that poster, he apparently thinks luck should not be more valuable than effort or talent "on principle". And just as in the case before, some would quit over those principles, others wouldn't. It's pretty simple, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Does that matter...?

    It's a matter of principles. For all I care, they could put a BiS weapon into the cash shop at a high price - I can tell you those would be rare as well and it would affect me no bit more than those Diadem weapons. Moreover, they, too, would be outdated at some point anyway, so you can even bring that argument. But I'm very sure the forums would be on fire if SE were to do such a thing. Why? Principles. In this case, people think SE should not sell power "on principle".
    In the case of that poster, he apparently thinks luck should not be more valuable than effort or talent "on principle". And just as in the case before, some would quit over those principles, others wouldn't. It's pretty simple, really.
    You can't compare Diadem to putting it in the cash shop.

    There are people that are still worthless in any end game content and wouldn't even be able to get the 280 weapons. Anyone can buy a 280 cash shop item.

    The complaint I keep hearing is that the effort people put into raiding or anima was worthless, even though A) Those were to be replaced anyways, and B) For anima specifically, it isn't "effort" since it's all just a waiting game. People quit this game over everything. Just look at 3.0 posts where people quit because their 135 weapon was pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    There are people that are still worthless in any end game content and wouldn't even be able to get the 280 weapons.
    Uhm...they only need to be in a group that beats the Emergency Mission and get lucky. That's it. Anyone can do that. On the flip side, not anyone could just shell out, like, 60$ or something for a weapon like that.

    I can not only compare the two, I can even turn your argument around. Because it's a stupid one that shows you haven't understood the purpose of the comparison: To show that people are willing to quit the game over principles, regardless of what those might be. And for that purpose, I can make more comparisons: Making a quest that glorifies sexism. Making a quest in which you need to torture chocobos. Making Legacy Items available to anyone. Or mailing everyone an i900 weapon at the start of Stormblood. IT DOES NOT MATTER for the point I was making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Does that matter...?

    It's a matter of principles. For all I care, they could put a BiS weapon into the cash shop at a high price - I can tell you those would be rare as well and it would affect me no bit more than those Diadem weapons. Moreover, they, too, would be outdated at some point anyway, so you can even bring that argument. But I'm very sure the forums would be on fire if SE were to do such a thing. Why? Principles. In this case, people think SE should not sell power "on principle".
    In the case of that poster, he apparently thinks luck should not be more valuable than effort or talent "on principle". And just as in the case before, some would quit over those principles, others wouldn't. It's pretty simple, really.
    OK, I understand all of that. However, in every RPG I've ever played there are always things that drop rarely that are better than everything else. Not everything is something that is hard earned or built over a long time. It's one of the facets of RPGs I've had to come to terms with over the years. I see this weapon in Diadem very much in that light.
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