Soo... apparently Diadem has i280 weapons with higher WD than alexandrian/anima lux

[Ultimatecalibur]

So, any reasonable argument why they didn't do that? If there is no reasonable one, then there's also no reasonable one for adding the 280 weapon.

The reasonable argument that they did not want Diadem to render all other content irrelevant.

Diadem v1 giving out fairly accessible i210 left-side gear and accessories did this for stat nuts in 3.1. Why run any floor other than A4S in Gordias? Why spend Eso on non-weapon gear? You could get just as good if not better gear farming Dino island.

If Diadem gave out i270, much the less i280, gear at anywhere near a reasonable rate, running Creator Savage and buying Augmenting Scripture gear would be meaningless.

A reasonable argument for why the Coven weapons are i280 is that a big enough group of players would consider an a .2% to .01% per run drop chance for an i275 weapon not good enough.

[Kallera]

lol, now that a better weapon is in the game, all of a sudden the anima is my "precious anima" lol.

yet no one understands why an unnecessary i280 weapon is unnecessary and is doing more harm than good? lol ok.

any lower and people would not be interested in the battle content, which requires lots of people to function. You don't have to do the content, even if you are a raider. you're complaining about a weapon that will be invalidated with the expansion, what would one more month or a i275weapon with such rng serve other than to make diadem a non starter with anyone?

[Lambdafish]

any lower and people would not be interested in the battle content, which requires lots of people to function. You don't have to do the content, even if you are a raider. you're complaining about a weapon that will be invalidated with the expansion, what would one more month or a i275weapon with such rng serve other than to make diadem a non starter with anyone?

Except like Diadem v1, the gear can be turned into spoils, which can be traded for minions, mounts, and materia, on top of this i265-i270 is still very good gear and matches current BiS, an i275 weapon would be "equivilent" to current BiS and would still be farmed, especially for alt jobs. PotD and Aquapolis give nowhere near BiS and yet people run them for rewards because the rewards are good, Diadem should have learnt from these pieces of content.

[Reynhart]

PotD and Aquapolis give nowhere near BiS and yet people run them for rewards because the rewards are good, Diadem should have learnt from these pieces of content.

Again, neither PotD nor Aquapolis requires 72 players to work as a team. You have to give a very good reason for such a large number of people to stop being dicks with strangers.

an i275 weapon would be "equivilent" to current BiS and would still be farmed, especially for alt jobs.

With such a low drop rate, every player that already has an i275 weapon would chose to get another one from Savage or Anima over grinding into Diadem.

[Neophyte]

Throughout all of HW, you always had a "possibility" of having a better weapon than the Anima. In fact, your precious Anima was only the best weapon for 10 days, and you aleady react that some ancestral benefit was taken from you.

I'd want to add one thing for raiders...you know that the weapon alone doesn't set howpowerful your character are ? When you chose your gear, you want a full BiS set, with weapon, armor and accessories. And, to build such a set, it is necessary to clear Creator Savage. So, whatever weapon the casuals you so depise acquire, you still have a higher potentiel than them and continue staying at the top of the food chain. So stop whining that all your efforts are "meaningless".

As far as I see it you have no opinion on whatever ilvl weapon drops and also no reasonable argument for the weapon being even higher than every other weapon (e.g. PotD was a success even without dropping the highest current weapon, it was just competing with the current EX trial).

I'm just wondering what's your point. Yes, maybe some are "whining", but some are just displeased, some acting bit overdramativ maybe, too. But still, the fact remains, that the jump to 280 is displeasing at least some people.
And if it's just because you were appointed with some people for light farm, but 2 out of 8 lost interest now, i.e. it might affect my gameplay [even in minor way] also if I don't care for that specific content myself, because in fact many people care about gear. That's not my fault and like I said I won't do that content much anyway. I'll give you even a proimies to trade whatever dropping 280 weapon into spoils.

On the other hand 280 isn't pleasing more people than a 275 weapon. Only if they're tards caring about soon outdated gear and on the same time are too bad or to lazy to do a relic or savage, right? So as bad or even worse than the "whiners" here. Do you want to be on that side?

So, what's your point? You had your laugh I think and whatever they could change (what they won't do anyway), like emergency maintance and setting drops back to 275 (lul), wouldn't affect you the slightest, because "meh, gear", right?

Why do you care about what others think in a thread like this, if you don't care about the topic substantially yourself?

[Kallera]

POTD is a 4 man, aquapolis is 8-man, diadem is multiple parties and alliances, a lot more investment, a lot more that can keep your weapon from dropping. I'm not convinced farming the weapon is something that can reasonably be done. and again, it would give the raiders nothing worth striving for with their raiding gear. Why does diadem have to fall in line with the rest of the content in sating the raiding ego that 4 fights is all that matters for 6 months? that just cuts into the number of people participating in it. and if not enough people are interested in chasing the Buer or whatever it is, it will not be beaten.

[Ultimatecalibur]

On the other hand 280 isn't pleasing more people than a 275 weapon.

Actually its mostly that a very load minority are doing knee-jerk complaining.

[bswpayton]

Im just a bit saltly that the weapon is 280 and there seems to only be a 1 percent drop rate of a 280 weapon but 265 gear that nobody even needs more people need a 265 weapon or 270 weapon than 265 gear by far so this does seem pretty stupid to me the more I think about it. The part that more people actually need is the thing that nobody will even be able to get nobody really needs 265 gear with dun scathe alex normal , and scripts. This really doesnt make a bit of sense why worry about raiders doing this content when they are such a small part of the player base this acutally makes it harder for casuals as far as getting a weapon for making that weapon op and makin the drop rate stupid.

[Azper]

I don't care much about the weapon. I'm more bothered by the fact that their big "overhaul" was turning it into an instance full of FATEs with a PotD-style RNG loot system tacked on to it. Whoopie.

[Rhuazie]

(This reply is based off of what I saw in PF today)

I don't understand the mentality "anyone who manages to get the 280 weapon, but doesn't have a lux or alex weapon are bad players". In PF salt is being thrown everywhere. "Those scrubs who get those weapons are all bad! I have my relic, so I'm still good!" Since when was it ok to desperately hunt for reasons to look down on others? I feel proud getting my alt a Lux. It doesn't bother me that a casual crafter would easily get one based off of good luck. I put hard work into it and got what I wanted. I get the saying bad players will be bad and good players will be good, but a simple weapon doesn't determine that at all.