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  1. #331
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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    Yeah it's really odd.
    My best guess is that SE was using logic similar to that of the 3 line Wondrous Tails gear rewards: It'll be rare enough to not through off game balance or invalidate the normal stuff.
    The Diadem weapons basically take that to the next level by being even rarer and flat out superior to other options instead of being the same strength with guaranteed melds.

    I seem to remember an interview saying that feedback on the new Diadem will influence development on Eureka so it could also be a testing ground for RNG based progression.
    Oh goody. An entire zone dedicated to pre nerf atma. Except this time every single step is developed around that!
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  2. #332
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    I dont care about the weapons as much I care how the Diadem 2.0 turned out. Fate farming til your heart is stopping. Did anybody check what for new rewards we got? Or at all?
    Diadem 2.0 is doomed to be left alone in the next months. Its always about kill monsters, kill, kill, kill. And then you have some casual players who dont know their rotation. Why not make some riddles or something along those lines. Content like this is unentertaining.
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  3. #333
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckiGoLucki View Post
    If people feel like they should drop the anima over this then that's their problem and honestly it's a bit sad. I guess I'm not put off by such things so easily. I hate to use this terminology: but that's how a "special snowflake" reacts to not getting things his/her way.
    Then there are a lot of special snowflakes in this game, because just from judging from community reactions, its more outrage than acceptance for this weapon.

    and regardless of whether adding this weapon into the game was a good idea, seeing as it literally has no purpose since we don't have any content in the game where i280 is at all necessary, the clear backlash fromt he community is only separating us, right before the release of an expansion.

    The state of the game is not good at all right now.
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  4. #334
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
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    Regardless of what the area drops, I am looking forward to signing up for a few runs this evening just to see what its all about.

    I avoided the initial Diadem release/content, so will give it a go just for something to try.

    If I end up with a weapon for an alt job, great, if not then that's ok too. None of this is needed or a must have for any current content nor for the expansion, that's all I'm really concerned with.
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  5. #335
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    Regardless of what the area drops, I am looking forward to signing up for a few runs this evening just to see what its all about.

    I avoided the initial Diadem release/content, so will give it a go just for something to try.

    If I end up with a weapon for an alt job, great, if not then that's ok too. None of this is needed or a must have for any current content nor for the expansion, that's all I'm really concerned with.
    This pretty much sums up how I feel about it. In fact the last 2 patches have made me care less and less about gear. I have a feeling I'll approach the expansion from an even more casual standpoint. I'm tired of caring about anything gear related other than Relic at this point. Felt a little pissed for about 10 minutes and then got over it.
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  6. #336
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    Elatus Shadeflare
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    not to mention scrips every 10 floors ha alot of people use it for that alone
    Don't forget the glamours, gil, mount, minions, and is one of the few places that give you Lore, Script and Poetics simultaneously, making it perfect for Unidentifieds and the Umbrite phase if you lack crafting.

    Edit: Oh yeah, and the Materia and gil-sellable items that you can get (like Demimateria)
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  7. #337
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    Nic Pay
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    Serious question tho does it only drop 280 weapons are does it drop any weapons from 250 to 280 , Im not gona drive myself crazy just for a one percent chance of gettin a 280 weapon, Ill do it for something like 260 or 265
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  8. #338
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    Then there are a lot of special snowflakes in this game, because just from judging from community reactions, its more outrage than acceptance for this weapon.
    and regardless of whether adding this weapon into the game was a good idea, seeing as it literally has no purpose since we don't have any content in the game where i280 is at all necessary, the clear backlash fromt he community is only separating us, right before the release of an expansion.
    This is also a big problem. Why even release something which would annoy X people for sure and please Y people. If you also can annoy less than X players and still please all the Y, by just making it a 275 weapon.

    With a 275 weapon, yes, there would be still complains, but way less. Then you could say: "Yea, those special snowflakes."
    But with higher difference the ammount of unsatisfied people will rise, while most not-that-well-geared players (players interested in a weapon upgrade, i.e. mostly people without a 275 weapon) just wouldn't care if their free rng upgrade is "only" 275. There are not more happy people because it's 280 instead of 275.
    Well, maybe some antisocial people who like it when other people feel bad or some smartass who always thought "Haha, do your grind, idiots." and then was happily suprised that he was double right this time, but everyone else would have been pleased with 275 just the same way as with 280, right?
    But there are more unhappy ones for sure with 280 than with 275.

    That's why I don't get this. Every idiot would have expected negative backlash.

    SE could've also released full 280 diadem left side gear? Why didn't they do that? Yes, it would annoy even more people than only the weapon, but if we learned anything in this thread than it is: Everything is the same. Vertical progression is vertical progression. Gear gets invalidated at some point. Who cares about stats at all is a special snowflake.
    So, any reasonable argument why they didn't do that? If there is no reasonable one, then there's also no reasonable one for adding the 280 weapon.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 03-10-2017 at 02:22 AM.

  9. #339
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Serious question tho does it only drop 280 weapons are does it drop any weapons from 250 to 280 , Im not gona drive myself crazy just for a one percent chance of gettin a 280 weapon, Ill do it for something like 260 or 265
    265 is the common gear drop. Haven't seen a 265 weapon yet, myself.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  10. #340
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    Birdy Reene
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    Then there are a lot of special snowflakes in this game, because just from judging from community reactions, its more outrage than acceptance for this weapon.

    and regardless of whether adding this weapon into the game was a good idea, seeing as it literally has no purpose since we don't have any content in the game where i280 is at all necessary, the clear backlash fromt he community is only separating us, right before the release of an expansion.

    The state of the game is not good at all right now.
    with your snowflakes comment, the forums only make up a spec of the player population, most of Zalera server is excited. Those emergency missions are fun and rough, if your group doesn't know what they are doing, they will get massacured as if they are doing a high tier raid from just the sheer dmg of the monsters. Its no walk in the park.
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