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    Quote Originally Posted by AamesxDavid View Post
    The fact that you're looking for an "argument for full price" clearly demonstrates you haven't been paying attention. If you enjoy the game enough, you'll pay full price; if you don't, then you won't.

    I'm not arguing about how much SE should charge, I'm saying your justifications for wanting the game for half price are nonsense. The only good argument for not wanting to pay full price is that you don't enjoy the game enough to pay full price. If that were the case, you wouldn't be here whining on the forums - you'd just leave.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_elasticity_of_demand
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_elasticity_of_demand


    This isn't a black and white, binary scenario here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Because. It's. FREE.


    Because.

    It's.

    Free!


    As long as the amount he is enjoying the game in its current form is worth MORE to him than $0, he will play as much as he wants.
    Really? Cause I can pretty much guarantee you when subs start if you pull up his character he'll be progressing along and paying for the priviledge because like most gamers, he's all talk. I know some will genuinely leave, but the majority won't. That includes the members of bluegartr.

  3. #363
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    And this is exactly why I'm not going to push this thread any further, because your trying to take advantage of SE by its poor Launch. I'm sorry but I'm done.. Feel free to think that "5 bucks" is fair blah blah, because you havent gave me a true reason as to why it should be that way.

    Chow.
    Um, I'm trying to propose ideas here that could possibly increase total revenue, give more money to the devs, and definitely increase the user base.

    I'm not trying to take advantage of anything, and if you think I am, then you're wrong.

    Also, it's "ciao".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Um, I'm trying to propose ideas here that could possibly increase total revenue, give more money to the devs, and definitely increase the user base.

    I'm not trying to take advantage of anything, and if you think I am, then you're wrong.

    Also, it's "ciao".
    Sound like to me you are.. of course everyone is going to want this game for 5 bucks ( heck I would too), however is that fair for SE. No its not. Its called thinking of others in which you clearly lack of, they gave you a 1year for free and now you want them to charge 5 bucks for it with you giving a reason as to why it SHOULD be 5 bucks, rather then say Okay this is wrong that is wrong this is wrong= That's why it should be 5 bucks. but you didn't say that at all.

    and I say it the way I want to say it

    Edit: My last attempt and try to makes sense out of it if not I'm done
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    I would definitely pay 5-6 bucks a month, and will absolutely not pay 12-14. It seems silly to think that a game that truly IS only half finished should be charging full price. Personally, I'm extremely happy with the direction the game is heading and even currently it's a vast improvement over 6 months ago, but I'm not paying full price... especially when for that price I could play a FINISHED game like WoW, Rift, or even Star Wars/Tera/GW2 on release.


    Edit: My last attempt and try to makes sense out of it if not I'm done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartel View Post
    I would definitely pay 5-6 bucks a month, and will absolutely not pay 12-14. It seems silly to think that a game that truly IS only half finished should be charging full price. Personally, I'm extremely happy with the direction the game is heading and even currently it's a vast improvement over 6 months ago, but I'm not paying full price... especially when for that price I could play a FINISHED game like WoW, Rift, or even Star Wars/Tera/GW2 on release.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Um, I'm trying to propose ideas here that could possibly increase total revenue, give more money to the devs, and definitely increase the user base.

    I'm not trying to take advantage of anything, and if you think I am, then you're wrong.

    Also, it's "ciao".
    Your idea is totally dependant on people choices regarding the game to remain the same regardless of future releases. That's more than a little foolish.

    Also, 5$ clearly isn't going to improve the corporate finances or the PR of this game until version 2. One can just avoid the drama altogether with the standard pricing.
    Hells, I can think of a few ways to insult it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartel View Post
    I would definitely pay 5-6 bucks a month, and will absolutely not pay 12-14. It seems silly to think that a game that truly IS only half finished should be charging full price. Personally, I'm extremely happy with the direction the game is heading and even currently it's a vast improvement over 6 months ago, but I'm not paying full price... especially when for that price I could play a FINISHED game like WoW, Rift, or even Star Wars/Tera/GW2 on release.

    You failed miserably.
    Sir this is where you are wrong, No MMO is a FINISHED game, and you have not been reading the interviews plastered around, Is been said that the game, will be almost 100% (Not finish, because to YoshiP; MMOs are never finish, that is why is not 100% and never will be for him).

    From there on is where you get to see where the or not to pay for full price or gtfo(from me personally, because you didnt read the whole thing and understand s**t)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    however is that fair for SE. No its not. Its called thinking of others in which you clearly lack of
    How nice of you to assume that a fan like me, who wants this game to succeed, is not thinking of others because you don't understand the argument I'm making.


    The reason why I'm saying that it might be a better idea to lower the price from $12 is because I don't think the PED will be as close to 1 as possible (at which point revenue is maximized) due to the reasons I explained earlier regarding the circumstances of this game.

    If you truly think that the impetus for my proposal comes from some greedy desire to screw over SE, then you don't understand the point of this thread at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    How nice of you to assume that a fan like me, who wants this game to succeed, is not thinking of others because you don't understand the argument I'm making.


    The reason why I'm saying that it might be a better idea to lower the price from $12 is because I don't think the PED will be as close to 1 as possible (at which point revenue is maximized) due to the reasons I explained earlier regarding the circumstances of this game.

    If you truly think that the impetus for my proposal comes from some greedy desire to screw over SE, then you don't understand the point of this thread at all.
    You surely lack the points
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