Compromise: Just Charge $5 For Now. Once 2.0 is Out, Then Charge $12

[Starlord]

This is a forum. Don't like it? Tough luck for you, friend. :P

Isn't that the Truth? So I say the same to you:

"This is a forum. Don't like it? Tough luck for you, friend. :P"

[Physic]

I guess my point is, before you all cry and rage at me all over again, is merely that SE are basically asking too much of people if they want them to invest in promises and hype from a company that has already let many people down already. It seems strange that SE have no compunction whatsoever about asking for players to repeat history all over again.

I think if you had asked people if they would charge before they had implemented jobs, most people would have said "lol no", but now it's like SE will try to rush and release an auction house so they can sell the game as having "all the bells and whistles of a modern MMO" so they can justify charging for it.

And yes, threads like this are so two weeks ago, and that's because people have just now started to adjust to the complete shock that they are charging despite the game not really being at the standard they assumed it would be at by the time SE started charging.

In principle you're being asked to pay for "What might come".

heres the real deal, you shouldnt be investing in promises, only pay for the game if you enjoy it now. If not, theres no reason to stay, you can come back when/if it offers something you enjoy. I dont think anyone should pay other than if they want to play the game.

I think this is what yoshida is getting at, hes going to institute the fee, after the next patch, two months from now, if you like that patch and what the game is right now, then play. If not, he hopes you ll check on it with each update and see if you want to return.

You are in control of your own wallet, people should only pay if they enjoy the current product. They should only come back when they enjoy the product. The free time is over, now FFXIV will have to sink or swim.

honestly 2.0 is irrelevant to this game now, hes asking you to pay now, when 2.0 comes out, it will be a different enough product that they will have a new trial period. If all you want is 2.0 you can come back then. No one is asking you to invest in 2.0, they are asking you to play for the game you are currently playing, or choose not to.

[Starlord]

heres the real deal, you shouldnt be investing in promises, only pay for the game if you enjoy it now. If not, theres no reason to stay, you can come back when/if it offers something you enjoy. I dont think anyone should pay other than if they want to play the game.

I think this is what yoshida is getting at, hes going to institute the fee, after the next patch, two months from now, if you like that patch and what the game is right now, then play. If not, he hopes you ll check on it with each update and see if you want to return.

You are in control of your own wallet, people should only pay if they enjoy the current product. They should only come back when they enjoy the product. The free time is over, now FFXIV will have to sink or swim.

Exactly, Well put!

[AmyRae]

Even in the face of BlueGartr demonstrably showing that it's possible SE could make more money by lowering the price...

You guys want to argue that they should charge full price and make less money out of some sort of misguided "I'm more blindly loyal than you" contest? I just don't see a convincing argument coming out of those arguing for full price here. I was hoping one would turn up, but I think I should get used to disappointment.

[JackDaniels]

Even in the face of BlueGartr demonstrably showing that it's possible SE could make more money by lowering the price...

You guys want to argue that they should charge full price and make less money out of some sort of misguided "I'm more blindly loyal than you" contest? I just don't see a convincing argument coming out of those arguing for full price here. I was hoping one would turn up, but I think I should get used to disappointment.

Exactly, Well put!

[Starlord]

Even in the face of BlueGartr demonstrably showing that it's possible SE could make more money by lowering the price...

You guys want to argue that they should charge full price and make less money out of some sort of misguided "I'm more blindly loyal than you" contest? I just don't see a convincing argument coming out of those arguing for full price here. I was hoping one would turn up, but I think I should get used to disappointment.

Drop it already! I said I'm Neutral in how they handle the billing, I just will pay for it either way.

I know this is the forums blah blah.. but your have beaten a dead horse 349 Posts ago, its time to hang this up, like seriously.

[AamesxDavid]

Even in the face of BlueGartr demonstrably showing that it's possible SE could make more money by lowering the price...

You guys want to argue that they should charge full price and make less money out of some sort of misguided "I'm more blindly loyal than you" contest? I just don't see a convincing argument coming out of those arguing for full price here. I was hoping one would turn up, but I think I should get used to disappointment.

The fact that you're looking for an "argument for full price" clearly demonstrates you haven't been paying attention. If you enjoy the game enough, you'll pay full price; if you don't, then you won't.

I'm not arguing about how much SE should charge, I'm saying your justifications for wanting the game for half price are nonsense. The only good argument for not wanting to pay full price is that you don't enjoy the game enough to pay full price. If that were the case, you wouldn't be here whining on the forums - you'd just leave.

[AamesxDavid]

I just don't see a convincing argument coming out of those arguing for full price here.

I'm sorry, I know I've already responded to this, but this honestly deserves it's own post for being so obnoxious.

Look at how entitled you must feel - other players need to give you a reason to pay the price that SE set for the game? Go to hell. It's one thing to have a reasonable discussion about what you personally feel is an appropriate price for the game. It's quite another to whine about how no one will tell you why you should pay.

[Starlord]

I'm sorry, I know I've already responded to this, but this honestly deserves it's own post for being so obnoxious.

Look at how entitled you must feel - other players need to give you a reason to pay the price that SE set for the game? Go to hell. It's one thing to have a reasonable discussion about what you personally feel is an appropriate price for the game. It's quite another to whine about how no one will tell you why you should pay.

As much as I agree with you bro, I think we should hang this thread up.. Lets be the better person here and walk away from it.. Okay?

[Rentahamster]

With the Current player base, a Discounted price I'm completely unsure of if they will merit a better income then 12.99..

the point is, people will pay for it if they enjoy the game, they arent going to choose mostly based on a price point but rather if they want to play it still or not

Are you guys even getting the economic argument about how a lower price point could possibly result in more overall revenue? Because you don't seem to be addressing that point that a lot of people are making. That's why I linked the info about the price elasticity of demand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_elasticity_of_demand

Due to the circumstances surrounding this game, it is probably more elastic than similar MMO products, thus a lower price point would possibly result in more revenue.

the same way gamers have always chosen

Gamers are consumers of a product. They are subject to the same economic forces as everyone else in the world.