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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    People factor the very fact that it's a "limited time bundle" into their decision to buy it.
    Quite, especially if they're the sort to put the code for the minion up on E-Bay a few months/years later for a couple hundred dollars. A, "pretty scummy thing to do," to those who want the minion as well as Square Enix. I may or may not be correct in presuming SE has a No Re-Sale clause for purchases like that.

    Regardless, I'd rather SE was making money off of its assets rather than scalpers jumping on those, 'One Time Bundles.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Quite, especially if they're the sort to put the code for the minion up on E-Bay a few months/years later for a couple hundred dollars. A, "pretty scummy thing to do," to those who want the minion as well as Square Enix. I may or may not be correct in presuming SE has a No Re-Sale clause for purchases like that.

    Regardless, I'd rather SE was making money off of its assets rather than scalpers jumping on those, 'One Time Bundles.'
    But the codes expire on limited items like CDs right?
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    legal BS
    https://store.na.square-enix.com/pro...rald-carbuncle

    This is the advert that you are claiming would be false. Please tell me where in description it says the words "exclusive". Lawsuits don't go through under player assumption, and SE's legal department would not shoot themselves in the foot by claiming that they can never redistribute the code ever again.

    While it would be a bad idea morally to put the minions on the mogstation, adding it to another exclusive would only allow players another (exclusive) shot at getting it and would not affect anything. Legally though, SE can do what they like.

    If this pack did exist, I think it would be a cool idea to add these classic merchandise minions.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 03-08-2017 at 06:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    But the codes expire on limited items like CDs right?
    All of the codes expire, CDs, statues, plushes- all of it. Also, all the items are just listed as having a bonus code- nothing "limited." It's literally we will send you a code for this as many times as there is adequate demand for it until these codes are set to expire. They don't even say they won't ever run them again.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    product link and explanation
    Ah, I wasn't aware that they had nothing that would allude to false advertising. I wonder if some of the older stuff had it though. We'll have to see. For those that don't, yes, it becomes a moral issue only, not a legal issue. But I was under the assumption that they had the text that advertised specifically that these were limited run and couldn't be reproduced in the future. So for that I will concede defeat. So yeah, we'll see what happens. I still don't agree with it on a moral level though.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    https://store.na.square-enix.com/pro...rald-carbuncle

    This is the advert that you are claiming would be false. Please tell me where in description it says the words "exclusive". Lawsuits don't go through under player assumption, and SE's legal department would not shoot themselves in the foot by claiming that they can never redistribute the code ever again.

    While it would be a bad idea morally to put the minions on the mogstation, adding it to another exclusive would only allow players another (exclusive) shot at getting it and would not affect anything. Legally though, SE can do what they like.

    If this pack did exist, I think it would be a cool idea to add these classic merchandise minions.
    From the original announcement page of the Before Meteor soundtrack:

    Capturing all of the music used prior to the destruction of Eorzea from the Seventh Umbral Era, the “Before Meteor: FINAL FANTASY XIV Original Soundtrack” is available for pre-order! Using Blu-Ray disc music technology, this soundtrack fully immerses you in the realm of Eorzea with over 5 hours of music, 104 songs, and the "A New Beginning" prologue video remastered in 5.1 surround sound.

    Additionally, as a special bonus, those who purchase the soundtrack will receive a code that they can redeem to unlock the exclusive “Wind-up Dalamud” minion.

    *Please note that the bonus code will be redeemable via the “FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station,” which is scheduled to be released after official service of the game begins.

    Head over to the SQUARE ENIX Online Store to find out more details and to pre-order the soundtrack.
    That said, I agree that the actual legal recourse would be limited to nonexistent, and would argue to preserve the exclusivity more for moral reasons as well.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    That said, I agree that the actual legal recourse would be limited to nonexistent, and would argue to preserve the exclusivity more for moral reasons as well.
    Would you be able to link the announcement page if at all possible (I completely believe you, but I want to see the context of the page), though I do still think there is a massive difference between a new limited time package deal and mogstation. These items aren't like 1.0 items, they are merchandise items, and it wouldn't be much different to them releasing a new batch of the same product with new codes (which they should totally do, and would do nothing to hinder the exclusivity as people would be buying the exact product that you did).

    I'd like to hear your thoughts on the differences between these two.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 03-09-2017 at 03:04 AM.

  8. #28
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    I would love for these to be made available in other ways as well. I'm a legacy player and I played through all of 1.0. I've purchased basically everything from the SE store pertaining to XIV. The only thing I actually miss is I forgot to redeem the Primog minion in time which kills me a bit. I have zero issues at all with anything being put on Mog Station or even being made available again.

    For example, why not continue to package the CDs with updated codes for merchandise? Wouldn't that only increase sales? If its because this is older merchandise, etc, its a matter of generating new codes and slapping a sticker or something to their current stock. There. Done.

    Either method honestly would be nice and welcome. I think SE's sorta shooting themselves in the foot by selling all this merchandise with old, expired codes. I know for a fact that I'd rebuy the stupid CD to get another Primog.
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  9. #29
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    Pick the moogle outfit...thing is fugly and more people should suffer it.
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    Been years since using this forum. @_@

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    Square should instead decide whether they want to actually be a subscription based MMO or whether they want to go f2p.
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