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  1. #21
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    Ramath's Avatar
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    Tiffany Thorn
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    Samurai Lv 70
    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    Seriously... I often wonder if this is the first and only online game everyone here has ever played. This is the nature of online games; they change! Sometimes in ways you approve of, and sometimes in ways you don't. That is never going to change. Being able to adapt and cope with change is a lost art, I think...

    I really enjoyed the interview. While I see, sadly, a lot of homogenization coming down the pipeline, I also see many good changes coming as well. I think they are starting to realize that most of the 51-60 abilities sounded great in theory but failed to work in practice. Unless the player was in that perfect star-aligned zone of optimal opportunity, which only lasts for a few seconds at a time, the job almost always reverted back to a level 50 play style. If we are playing as a level 50 job a lot of the time, why bother adding levels 51-60? I hope they see this and want to make the play styles change from 50 to 60.
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  2. #22
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Interesting.

    Glad to see Thunder II and III being removed and rolled into Thunder. Thunder II was useless after you got III, and you still only ever cast Thunder, only using Thunder III on proc. I'm hoping Mana Ward and Mana Barrier will also be merged. Maybe do the same for Freeze and Blizzard II.
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  3. #23
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Interesting.

    Glad to see Thunder II and III being removed and rolled into Thunder. Thunder II was useless after you got III, and you still only ever cast Thunder, only using Thunder III on proc. I'm hoping Mana Ward and Mana Barrier will also be merged. Maybe do the same for Freeze and Blizzard II.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but with your natural mp regen timing Thunder II was better than Thunder for your level 50 rotation, yes?
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  4. #24
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but with your natural mp regen timing Thunder II was better than Thunder for your level 50 rotation, yes?
    Good question. I've always used Thunder, but maybe something changed. I don't do Savage/EX content myself, so a more competitive Black Mage player would probably know for sure.
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  5. #25
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Good question. I've always used Thunder, but maybe something changed. I don't do Savage/EX content myself, so a more competitive Black Mage player would probably know for sure.
    These days I believe Thunder is fine for the Enochian shenanigans since you don't need the extra time for the MP regen (Blizzard III into Blizzard IV is enough) and you just want the DoT out as fast as possible. The potency between the 3 tiers' initial hit just isn't high enough of a difference to matter.
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  6. #26
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    No healer changes because "all healers are viable" is a cop-out, and frankly, insanely disappointing. Nobody CARES that all three healers are fairly balanced healing-wise; what people are losing their nuts over is the OTHER stuff they bring to the table like superior MP regen, better global efficiency or sustainable personal DPS/group DPS contribution. Lack of strict healing requirements leading to the immense focus on these other areas is just soul-crushing and I'm supremely disheartened to hear that the devs are taking such a narrow-minded view on healer balance.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    No healer changes because "all healers are viable" is a cop-out, and frankly, insanely disappointing. Nobody CARES that all three healers are fairly balanced healing-wise; what people are losing their nuts over is the OTHER stuff they bring to the table like superior MP regen, better global efficiency or sustainable personal DPS/group DPS contribution. Lack of strict healing requirements leading to the immense focus on these other areas is just soul-crushing and I'm supremely disheartened to hear that the devs are taking such a narrow-minded view on healer balance.
    Maybe we'll get lucky and have actual healing-intensive fights again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    If they screw it up, maybe it's time to embrace the MOAR Deeps meta, and do away with the trinity and just let healer and tanks do as much damage as damage dealers and ignore aggro and healing?
    ever play dcuo?? if not... it is very much like this and content is a fuster cluck. People would just run off and solo mobs to be top dps. then blame everyone else for death.
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  9. #29
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    Vorx Dargo
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    No healer changes because "all healers are viable" is a cop-out, and frankly, insanely disappointing. Nobody CARES that all three healers are fairly balanced healing-wise; what people are losing their nuts over is the OTHER stuff they bring to the table like superior MP regen, better global efficiency or sustainable personal DPS/group DPS contribution. Lack of strict healing requirements leading to the immense focus on these other areas is just soul-crushing and I'm supremely disheartened to hear that the devs are taking such a narrow-minded view on healer balance.
    You would think Healers would be the main focus areas, I personally feel the Healer is the most important person in the group. No one else can heal others or revive, even if someone is a Class and cross skills Cure it doesn't make up for a full Healer class. Even if RDM gets healing magic or can cross skill it it still won't be as good.
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  10. #30
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    No healer changes because "all healers are viable" is a cop-out, and frankly, insanely disappointing. Nobody CARES that all three healers are fairly balanced healing-wise; what people are losing their nuts over is the OTHER stuff they bring to the table like superior MP regen, better global efficiency or sustainable personal DPS/group DPS contribution. Lack of strict healing requirements leading to the immense focus on these other areas is just soul-crushing and I'm supremely disheartened to hear that the devs are taking such a narrow-minded view on healer balance.
    You're reading too much into it. They said that AST is not getting nerfed because they feel that all the jobs are viable at end game. That doesn't mean there are no healer changes coming, it means AST is not getting nerfed. That should be a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. This interview gave us very little information about all the changes to come.
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