Compromise: Just Charge $5 For Now. Once 2.0 is Out, Then Charge $12

[RhyaNeema]

Although I don't have a problem with spending less I sincerely hope they ignore this thread. If they reduced the price then in a few months we will most certainly have the same discussion. Only this time people will ask how SE justifies the sudden increase if they managed to fund the game AND it's "rerelease" with just $5 monthly.

People will always try to find ways to pay less for whatever they want, regardless of how much they actually want it. That's why so many people (including me) exploit low currency conversion rates :P.

Some of you have played the game for a year now and were never charged anything for it (except for the few retail price which caved pretty quickly too). So just cut the devs some slack and give them their money . Sure it's not our fault the launch was messed up, but wasn't it punishment enough for SE to have them fund the MMO and it's further development for a whole year without getting a buck for it in return?

They could've pulled the plug at any point to minimize their losses, but they didn't. And for that kind of self-destructive stubborness I gladly pay my 12.99€ .

Btw I wish it were just 12.99$ for me. But as an european the monthly fee actually is ~18$, because SE converts 1$:1€ instead of using the actual conversion rate. So there you have it US boys, you already got your discount. Hope you're happy now :P.

[Starlord]

no because you get your paid free trial in 2.0.....strange they want to give us the 30 days free in 2.0 and not now....wonder why that is? is it because thats what they think is the real "full" version thats worth paying for?

Your paying for the Current state of the game, Forget that 2.0 exist for a moment here. I recall ALOT of people saying that when Jobs comes out aka: 1.21 1.20= Groundwork. that they would Gladly start paying for the fee then, as then MOST of the people would enjoy the game @ 1.21 in its current state.

I remember that clear as day. While 1.21 is only a few months away, and there Charging at 1.20 ( which is close to being Launch worthy) so why not start now?

BUT, all of a sudden when 2.0 gets Realized.. it makes 1.0 a crappy game magically? the ONLY thing that's not getting put into the new world.. is the "ONE-TIME EVENTS" most of everything else will be in version 2.0. AND 2.0 Isn't a New game, and Yoshi-P has stated this Numerous of times! Its more like a.... Major Expansion that's Equivalent to 3 Expansions ( at least to me. 1.0 Current Storyline is being Altered to a point yes, to Accommodate the 7th Umbra Era. But all the Content ( IE: Dungeons/Strongholds/Primals/Guildleves ( to a point Yoshi-p said)) WILL be in VERSION 2.0.

The ONLY things that WILL be different are the Following:

- User Interface
- Graphics Engine
- New Servers
- New Client
- New Maps ( Due to the Destruction of the 6th Umbra Era)

Most of these Changes are " Technological" Related NOT the game itself.

So saying your paying for an " Incomplete Product" When you say 2.0 is the Full Version of the game is Idiotic

[AmyRae]

and in the end, alot of people just want a discount for discounts sake, it has nothing to do with anything else but that one simple fact, they want more for less

No, it's that we want to pay less for less. We aren't getting 2.0 for another year. Why should we be paying as though that's what we're getting now?

[Wynn]

Adhominem symantics hypocracy yadayada you bore me, ignore.

I suggest a few courses in logic so that you actually understand fallacies before you try to point them out. One would think you would have learned the first time.

[Answa]

Adhominem symantics hypocracy yadayada you bore me, ignore.

lol, I believe we've found the biggest troll of the forums.

BTW: semantics, hypocrisy

[JackDaniels]

Sorry wynn i know u have this huuuge crush on me, that's why I'm assuming that message is geared towards me (aw ur so cute). But I can't see your posts anymore so you're wasting your breath little buddy.

[Answa]

No, it's that we want to pay less for less. We aren't getting 2.0 for another year. Why should we be paying as though that's what we're getting now?

Here's a thought: THEN DON'T. That is ALL we're saying. If you think you're getting ripped off, don't pay. What we're tired of is the incessant whining.

[TheVedis]

No, it's that we want to pay less for less. We aren't getting 2.0 for another year. Why should we be paying as though that's what we're getting now?

for the same reason you pay full price for any mmo before expansions come out
because the expansion doesnt dictate the price

lets say you pay less now
when 2.o comes out you pay 12 dollars
does that means when 3.0 comes out you will be willing to pay 16? and so on

no of course not

a flat price point across the board is the standard for mmos, people are trying to use the crutch of launch to dictate whgat the price should be

fact is we have tons of content now, but people refuse to accept that and look only at how the game launched and how this "isnt 2.0 yet"

people want a discount for discounts sake, it has nothing to do with any other fact but that in 90% of the cases out there
and they will say anything and everything they can think of to try and convince people that we deserve one for XXX reason

[AamesxDavid]

lets say you pay less now
when 2.o comes out you pay 12 dollars
does that means when 3.0 comes out you will be willing to pay 16? and so on

no of course not

A "Like" simply did not suffice for this post. Completely and utterly 100% this.

Stop pretending the game is half done because we're getting more content later. At the very least, stick with reasons that you don't enjoy the game as it is now. Because that's a real argument for not wanting to pay. I think there are other problems with that reason, but at least stick to the truth of the matter.

Also: JFC, people, stop feeding the troll. This thread is actually a worthwhile discussion without JackDaniels, and the ignore function just isn't thorough enough - plus I still have to see all his posts anyway with your unnecessary responses.

[Yellowbluebus]

A "Like" simply did not suffice for this post. Completely and utterly 100% this.

Stop pretending the game is half done because we're getting more content later. At the very least, stick with reasons that you don't enjoy the game as it is now. Because that's a real argument for not wanting to pay. I think there are other problems with that reason, but at least stick to the truth of the matter.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.
And on a slight tangent of my own- An MMO is never truly finished so people will be bitching up until the end. I think that if you support something, you should be willing to put forth the effort to help it progress. It's common sense that they would charge a standard amount to support the product. Whether it's "done" or not isn't the question here, it's whether or not we want to support Yoshi P. and the development team in their progress. Have you looked at the updates scheduled? Do you like the content they are developing? The fact that they listen to us? The websites and other modes of communication that they have tirelessly made for us? The fact that during the Tokyo city power outages that they STILL worked on content? Support them like they have supported us. The faster they receive support, the faster they can stop worrying about how they will get financial backing and get back to programming the game.

Personally, I will pay if it's 12 dollars or 14 dollars or whatever they decide to charge me. Thank you SE; Yoshi P. for everything.