Compromise: Just Charge $5 For Now. Once 2.0 is Out, Then Charge $12

[TheVedis]

Not only do you pay for what you enjoy, you tell other people what they do or do not enjoy and tell them they have to pay for it. GTFO already lol.

EDIT: I hardly doubt u have a job at all so really it's someone else paying for your FFXIV. So once again, GTFO lol.

wait? im telling people what they should and shouldnt do? really?
isnt that exactly what your doing.

what im saying is what people will do

they will pay if they enjoy the game
they wont pay if they cant afford the game(in which case how much they enjoy it means squat cuz they couldnt afford it even at 1 dollar probly)
they wont pay for it if they weernt playing to begin with(alot of th whiners on this forum qualify under this)
they wont pay for it if they never planned on paying for it to begin with(the rest fall here)

never have i demanded people pay for the game

i also have not told people that they must enjoy the game if they enjoy it fine, thats on them, but if they are enjoying the game, they arent gonna be the ones whining the hardest about the price point "unless" they cant afford the game period and rely on it being f2p in order to play


and in the end, alot of people just want a discount for discounts sake, it has nothing to do with anything else but that one simple fact, they want more for less

[AmyRae]

and in the end, alot of people just want a discount for discounts sake, it has nothing to do with anything else but that one simple fact, they want more for less

No, it's that we want to pay less for less. We aren't getting 2.0 for another year. Why should we be paying as though that's what we're getting now?

[Answa]

No, it's that we want to pay less for less. We aren't getting 2.0 for another year. Why should we be paying as though that's what we're getting now?

Here's a thought: THEN DON'T. That is ALL we're saying. If you think you're getting ripped off, don't pay. What we're tired of is the incessant whining.

[TheVedis]

No, it's that we want to pay less for less. We aren't getting 2.0 for another year. Why should we be paying as though that's what we're getting now?

for the same reason you pay full price for any mmo before expansions come out
because the expansion doesnt dictate the price

lets say you pay less now
when 2.o comes out you pay 12 dollars
does that means when 3.0 comes out you will be willing to pay 16? and so on

no of course not

a flat price point across the board is the standard for mmos, people are trying to use the crutch of launch to dictate whgat the price should be

fact is we have tons of content now, but people refuse to accept that and look only at how the game launched and how this "isnt 2.0 yet"

people want a discount for discounts sake, it has nothing to do with any other fact but that in 90% of the cases out there
and they will say anything and everything they can think of to try and convince people that we deserve one for XXX reason

[AamesxDavid]

lets say you pay less now
when 2.o comes out you pay 12 dollars
does that means when 3.0 comes out you will be willing to pay 16? and so on

no of course not

A "Like" simply did not suffice for this post. Completely and utterly 100% this.

Stop pretending the game is half done because we're getting more content later. At the very least, stick with reasons that you don't enjoy the game as it is now. Because that's a real argument for not wanting to pay. I think there are other problems with that reason, but at least stick to the truth of the matter.

Also: JFC, people, stop feeding the troll. This thread is actually a worthwhile discussion without JackDaniels, and the ignore function just isn't thorough enough - plus I still have to see all his posts anyway with your unnecessary responses.

[Yellowbluebus]

A "Like" simply did not suffice for this post. Completely and utterly 100% this.

Stop pretending the game is half done because we're getting more content later. At the very least, stick with reasons that you don't enjoy the game as it is now. Because that's a real argument for not wanting to pay. I think there are other problems with that reason, but at least stick to the truth of the matter.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.
And on a slight tangent of my own- An MMO is never truly finished so people will be bitching up until the end. I think that if you support something, you should be willing to put forth the effort to help it progress. It's common sense that they would charge a standard amount to support the product. Whether it's "done" or not isn't the question here, it's whether or not we want to support Yoshi P. and the development team in their progress. Have you looked at the updates scheduled? Do you like the content they are developing? The fact that they listen to us? The websites and other modes of communication that they have tirelessly made for us? The fact that during the Tokyo city power outages that they STILL worked on content? Support them like they have supported us. The faster they receive support, the faster they can stop worrying about how they will get financial backing and get back to programming the game.

Personally, I will pay if it's 12 dollars or 14 dollars or whatever they decide to charge me. Thank you SE; Yoshi P. for everything.

[Starlord]

I agree with this wholeheartedly.
And on a slight tangent of my own- An MMO is never truly finished so people will be bitching up until the end. I think that if you support something, you should be willing to put forth the effort to help it progress. It's common sense that they would charge a standard amount to support the product. Whether it's "done" or not isn't the question here, it's whether or not we want to support Yoshi P. and the development team in their progress. Have you looked at the updates scheduled? Do you like the content they are developing? The fact that they listen to us? The websites and other modes of communication that they have tirelessly made for us? The fact that during the Tokyo city power outages that they STILL worked on content? Support them like they have supported us. The faster they receive support, the faster they can stop worrying about how they will get financial backing and get back to programming the game.

Personally, I will pay if it's 12 dollars or 14 dollars or whatever they decide to charge me. Thank you SE; Yoshi P. for everything.

I agree with this 100%, They Supported us for the longest time ( even under Extreme circumstances) like the Major Earthquake and the Major Flood that Caused Japan to go into a " Semi-Recession" and they still worked on the game despite all that, is Noble.

[Rentahamster]

lets say you pay less now
when 2.o comes out you pay 12 dollars
does that means when 3.0 comes out you will be willing to pay 16? and so on

no of course not

No, of course not. If you really think that this is the argument that Amy is trying to make, you don't understand her argument at all.

[Wynn]

Adhominem symantics hypocracy yadayada you bore me, ignore.

I suggest a few courses in logic so that you actually understand fallacies before you try to point them out. One would think you would have learned the first time.

[Answa]

Adhominem symantics hypocracy yadayada you bore me, ignore.

lol, I believe we've found the biggest troll of the forums.

BTW: semantics, hypocrisy