Is our sub fee not enought

[Lexia]

If it were not for Mogstation, there would hae been no funding for FFXV, FFVII Remake, of KH3.

Oh please don't go there, those game would/still be worked on and released. No one at SE sitting around going well if no one buys from the XIV cash shop we can't do these others games.

[Kaedan]

Nearly every person you say?! Talk about hyperbole.

Oh, so you like to argue dishonestly, I see.

I said nearly every person complaining about the cash shop has utilized fearmongering hyperbole in their responses at least once in this thread... which is a fact, not hyperbole.

Nearly all major MMOs do not include a subscription based model.

Completely irrelevant to whether or not they offer a level skip option. And besides, the main major competitor to FFXIV that also has a subscription offers it (WoW).

[Omegakiyohime]

Then get General-purpose Dark Blue Dye or General-purpose Dark Red Dye from Quick Exploration Venture and Market Board instead of the cash shop dyes. It only need luck or gil.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Quick_Exploration

Them putting it behind something with really terrible RNG, does not excuse the fact that at 8.99-14.99 per month, folks have to pay for something as basic as "Dark Red Dye" or a "play dead" emote. I'm not against the cash shop, hell I've even bought stuff from it (and will do so again in the future), but I'm not going to act like the way SE has approached the situation is perfect.

[dalta]

i wonder how long it will be before thay put a gachapon or a form of 'cubing' in the game :/

[Roda]

i wonder how long it will be before thay put a gachapon or a form of 'cubing' in the game :/

SHHHH! Don't give them ideas!!!

[dalta]

SHHHH! Don't give them ideas!!!

dont be silly. thay probebly already got a gachapon ready for storm blood >_>

[Belhi]

It's not rewriting the MSQ. It's literally just dividing it into discreet chunks that you can start when you want - a la GW2. -_-

GW2 runs on a different engine and GW2 offers a free jump to lvl 80 if you own HoT. FF14 is actually one of the few MMOs which don't offer such a service in the west at this point.

We don't know if FF14's engine is really flexible enough to separate the MSQ and maintain its quest flagging and phasing. Do remember things change an unlock as you progress. Let's just say that in SB we get sent to the Rising Stones. Would that mean starting there would unlock it? What would that mean for the flagging process during the 2.X MSQ that leads to it unlocking?

I don't think its a simple as 'just dividing it into discreet chunks'.

[Skivvy]

Oh, so you like to argue dishonestly, I see.

I said nearly every person complaining about the cash shop has utilized fearmongering hyperbole in their responses at least once in this thread... which is a fact, not hyperbole.

You either don't understand the meaning of hyperbole or fear mongering. Most responses in this thread have been just fine. Also, you changed the wording in your comment above. Minor, but it still lessens the effect.

Completely irrelevant to whether or not they offer a level skip option. And besides, the main major competitor to FFXIV that also has a subscription offers it (WoW).

And it is completely relevant. F2P/B2P and P2P games have completely different business models. If XIV is wanting to give the option for new players to skip MSQ, why not build that into the game? Instead, they're content to add it to the cash shop.

[Kaedan]

Most responses in this thread have been just fine. Also, you changed the wording in your comment above. Minor, but it still lessens the effect.

1) Again, I didn't say "nearly all the responses in this thread". I said nearly all the people complaining about the cash shop have used fearmongering hyperbole, which is a fact. There are several examples on the last 3 pages alone.

2) I didn't change the wording of anything. Stop lying in order to attempt to score "interwebz points".

And it is completely relevant. F2P/B2P and P2P games have completely different business models. If XIV is wanting to give the option for new players to skip MSQ, why not build that into the game? Instead, they're content to add it to the cash shop.

No, it is not. Whether a game has a level skip option is not at all relevant to whether it has a subscription or not. Zero relevance.

And just to hammer that point home for you a second time, the main major competitor to FFXIV which has a subscription (WoW) has level skip options purchasable in their cash shop along with mounts and plenty of other cosmetics.

[vigioX-Sun]

I will never put one cent in the cash shop besides my sub an expansions.
An the reason why they keep adding exclusive to cash shop is because people are buying...
To me..I don't know... I prefer to go out an eat that money or use it in something else.