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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failia View Post
    Maybe so, but they offered a legitimate reason why they were offering said potions.
    And there was a perfectly legitimate alternative solution for them: unlinking the MSQ from progression to the next expansion. They went the cash-grabby route instead.

    There is a precedent they are setting here: problems will be solved with cash shop items; increasingly more cosmetics will go straight to the shop instead of being added to the game. It started with simply old holiday items, and then expanded to a few novelty cosmetics, then RENTING storage space (honestly more low-brow than even the crappiest f2p mmo), then the NPC outfits and hairstyles, now unique emotes with no connection to holiday events that SHOULD have been in the game from the start (/playdead, for example)... It's only going to expand from there. That isn't doomsaying, that is literally watching the same thing happen over and over again from MMO to MMO and calling it like it is. And it is crap.
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  2. #382
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    If it were not for Mogstation, there would hae been no funding for FFXV, FFVII Remake, of KH3.
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  3. #383
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanscott View Post
    If it were not for Mogstation, there would hae been no funding for FFXV, FFVII Remake, of KH3.
    Where did you glean this information from?
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  4. #384
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    I'm not against a cash shop, but it's always been a bit of a delicate balance. Right now, and for a while, that balance has felt a bit off. I mean, we have to pay, on top of a subscription, for a "play dead" emote and Dark Red/Blue dye.
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  5. #385
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    And there was a perfectly legitimate alternative solution for them: unlinking the MSQ from progression to the next expansion. They went the cash-grabby route instead.
    rewriting the whole MSQ is not really a alternative solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    I mean, we have to pay, on top of a subscription, for a "play dead" emote and Dark Red/Blue dye.
    Then get General-purpose Dark Blue Dye or General-purpose Dark Red Dye from Quick Exploration Venture and Market Board instead of the cash shop dyes. It only need luck or gil.

    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Quick_Exploration
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    Last edited by Felis; 03-04-2017 at 07:44 AM.

  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    rewriting the whole MSQ is not really a alternative solution.
    It's not rewriting the MSQ. It's literally just dividing it into discreet chunks that you can start when you want - a la GW2. -_-
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    It's not rewriting the MSQ. It's literally just dividing it into discreet chunks that you can start when you want - a la GW2. -_-
    Will still need a rewrite. 2.0-4.0 is a whole story, not a collection of short stories with not much connection between them.
    Or we will get a chronology fragmented story like in FF XIII-2, where you start with fighting for Ala Migho, and then enter your first time Eorzea, following with a raid to the garlean capitol, and at the end to fight against Nidhogg.
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    Last edited by Felis; 03-04-2017 at 07:56 AM.

  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    It's not rewriting the MSQ. It's literally just dividing it into discreet chunks that you can start when you want - a la GW2. -_-
    I believe Yoshida already said no to that because it would require an entire rework of the quest system anyways, but it wasn't exactly to that but it was to a question about redoing quests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki Yoshida
    Because these quests are all triggered with flags, to make this possible, we might have to recreate the entire quest system itself from the ground up. Now that I think about it, though… each of these battles are created as individual content. If we could create a list of ones that have been completed and use that list to re-create the situation, it might not be impossible… The idea and implementation? Not impossible. It would take a lot of debugging, though, so if you cannot wait… Make a new character.

    Source:http://gamerescape.com/2017/02/19/le...017-frankfurt/
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  9. #389
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    I havent looked nor made a post in this forum for a very long time. I just have to ask... Why is this a real issue with nearly 40 pages?
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  10. #390
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    It's not an issue. People don't understand how an optional item shop works. The items put on the shop are not ones that they made and were like "screw the players, put it on the item shop." These items wouldn't be put in the game if the item shop didn't exist. The items themselves would not exist.
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