STOP ask for exclusive things to obtained in other way

[Zojha]

The whole point of rewards is that they're supposed to incentivize people to do content; why ever take part in the Feast if you can get the top 10 rewards without it?

And they utterly fail in that regard because only 650 people can get them, which means participating is absolutely pointless for the vast majority of the population by design, especially the people that actually need an incentive to queue up in the first place, since those likely aren't PvP regulars and consequently can't compete with regulars.
Heck, the Anima questline wouldn't be remotely as popular if only the fastest 650 to finish would get the weapon in the end either. The limitation kills the incentive function.

Garo was an incentive that worked - Instant queues all day. I wager 8vs8 Feast currently is also quite lively thanks to the Assist/Kill minions, though I haven't bothered checking yet. Top X rewards are just a waste.

[ErryK]

Wise words.. The problem with this game will always be the same : i want this , i want that , i want it for free , i don't like the way to get it , 2 weeks ago no1 really cared about these mounts .. Now that ppl saw the mounts.. Hueee huee i want it too!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Void-Ark-Mount

"2 weeks ago no one cared" 22/02/16 is a year ago.

Only reason that thread has 5 posts is it got moved to website feedback & discussion, which really doesn't make sense???

[Rinari]

Garo was an incentive that worked - Instant queues all day. I wager 8vs8 Feast currently is also quite lively thanks to the Assist/Kill minions, though I haven't bothered checking yet. Top X rewards are just a waste.

Garo is the only reason I started PVP, and I'll probably stop once I've farmed up everything I want. PVP is actually fun, but without the glamour incentives, there are other things I'd rather be doing. If those incentives were restricted to top 100, top 10%, or something like that, I wouldn't even bother. I'm frankly not good enough at PVP to be competitive. Maybe with enough effort I could be, but the risk vs reward factor for even trying for competitive PVP reward makes it a bad time investment for me.

That being said, I don't begrudge having winners. PVP should probably reward the 'best'. The current win-trading prone system fails at finding the best, but it could be done in theory. I'd much rather not have the rewards time-locked though. Make the rewards repeat every 'season'. Allow winners to choose a previous prize over a newer one. I think that would serve as a better incentive anyway. If there is must have reward for you, you can try, and lose...then try again next season!

[Titor]

Why isn't everyone in this thread also pushing for the two legacy mounts (Goobbue and Legacy Chocobo) to be available as well? Or even the time gated whisper a-go-go mount? Push for everything if you're going to try to take away a reward that people worked hard for over 4 months!

inb4 "legacy stuck with a bad/dying game!"
Would you not say PvP is bad/dying and those that got the mount stuck with it?

inb4 "But they paid sub time to get it!"
I paid 4 months of sub time over the pvp season

[Exira]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Void-Ark-Mount

"2 weeks ago no one cared" 22/02/16 is a year ago.

Only reason that thread has 5 posts is it got moved to website feedback & discussion, which really doesn't make sense???

still 5 post how does that prove ppl cared before lol

[Stormfur]

Even then, how do you define "the best" - is it

- People who have the most time to PVP (and win by sheer time investment)
- People who have the best luck in PVP (since you're relying on the skill of 3 other players to help you win -- see also: getting carried.)
- People who are legitimately good at PVP and are grouped with 3 others of equal skill (the REAL best).
- People who wintrade or use speedhacks/ACT overlays and all that nonsense in PVP to cheat and climb their way to the top.

The thing is, the ranking ladder doesn't care. It just calculates a number. So you can look at the faces on the leaderboard and know that some are legitimately good, and others got there by way of the other means. Should they be rewarded for that?

If you could earn tokens that you could redeem for previous Feast items, that would incentivize PVP a whole lot more than it is right now. The winners of previous seasons have had their moment in the spotlight. We see their titles and armor and minions and mounts and we congratulate them for it (at least I do). Opening up the door to let others players have the same opportunity without relying on time/luck isn't about belittling your rewards - it's about giving those who want to try, in this massively multiplayer game, the chance to tackle these challenges too.

(Also for those that say only a few people wanted the hellhound, go see my original post on the General chat forum - I've linked to all the other instances where I and others have asked for a way to obtain it).

[Stormfur]

Why isn't everyone in this thread also pushing for the two legacy mounts (Goobbue and Legacy Chocobo) to be available as well? Or even the time gated whisper a-go-go mount? Push for everything if you're going to try to take away a reward that people worked hard for over 4 months!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you get a Goobue mount from doing the Sylph quests? I don't know about the legacy chocobo, but if the only difference on that one is armor (as near as I can tell), I'd be all for a way to earn that, as well as some other 1.0 items that are hard to get.

I think people aren't rallying for the Whisper mount because it looks like a glowing sperm car. The hellhound looks awesome.

PVP is bad because the system is broken and needs an overhaul. It is definitely not dying, thanks to GARO.

[Felis]

Given we all pay the same sub I do think we should all have access to items added as in-game content so I don't like the idea of items that only a very small number of people can get (or time limited ones to that matter).

We don't pay all the same sub. Some have a exclusive livetime discount ^^

I don't know about the legacy chocobo, but if the only difference on that one is armor (as near as I can tell), I'd be all for a way to earn that, as well as some other 1.0 items that are hard to get.

another armor, another feathers, a tattoo. Cost 3 months sub.



I think the only 1.0 "exclusive" items that the devs should bring back are the dated gears that every class can wear.

[ErryK]

still 5 post how does that prove ppl cared before lol

"Only reason that thread has 5 posts is it got moved to website feedback & discussion, which really doesn't make sense???"

Someone doesn't read.

[Lambdafish]

"Only reason that thread has 5 posts is it got moved to website feedback & discussion, which really doesn't make sense???"

Someone doesn't read.

Tbf,the only people in that discussion are me and the OP and I like it being in ranked PVP Also, Exira could be right, maybe people didn't post because they didn't care? I don't ever remember there being a burning desire for these mounts until they were introduced in pvp, and my reaction back then was "sure, why not"

Also cool, I'm in a thing from a year ago