Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[szalkerous]

Uh, no offense. You clearly don't raid with hardcore players or even a good number of midcore, come to think of it. Wanting to skip the story doesn't inherently make you a bad player. Some people simply aren't interested in it.

You're right, I don't run with hardcore groups. One, I don't have the schedule flexibility to do so... and two, I can do without someone screaming into Teamspeak because someone slipped a key and didn't do absolutely perfect DPS on the parser.

Midcore however, that's more my jam. You still find a lot of impatience there, and people who flash ragequit over the stupidest things. As you do in any MMO, for the record. I just don't see the need to perpetuate that type of player in the game. You might enjoy--or at least are unaffected by--that sort of person. But nearly 100% of the times I see someone drop group because someone screwed up once, it's to the annoyance and detriment of the remaining people who want to get the job done.

Yes, we can again argue that you could avoid most of that via premades from LS or FC sources...but again this is a topic about new players, and by far and large they tend to either end up in freebie FCs that don't have a tight-knit community or simply go rogue... and in both cases DF and PF are a mixed bag.

In my opinion, anyone who buys and plays XIV simply to bypass all the MSQ and other content to get straight to end-game raiding is doing themselves a massive disservice. This isn't a hardcore raiding game. I can think of half a dozen much more difficult raiding MMORPGs on the market that tailor for those people. This game was designed to be a Final Fantasy--lore, story, and world being the focus.

[bswpayton]

The inherent flaw to running content sync'd is that 24-man raids ]

You clearly missed the point I was making this game is not the environment to hover around old content even with wt might as well be called unsync tails. Do you think people will still run ravana extreme and bis extreme with new players if u do then we are playing diff games. They already said all dungeons will be marked as complete thus giving them a chance for all story dungeons. The only content people will still run as rolettes, because of the community jump potion is the best solution. There is no way around it this is a do current content only community and I get it now u must not somehow

[Bourne_Endeavor]

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My point was a person skipping story does not inherently make them a toxic or aggressive player. Good raiders typically aren't the extremes you're attempting to portray them. Are some? Absolutely. But that has nothing to do with a skip potion. In fact, a large number of roleplayers covet them since plenty only care about their individual stories and not the overarching plot.

And that's the thing. It's an opinion. To people who have no interest in the story, it isn't a disservice. They simply do not care about it and have likely spammed through every cut scene or dialogue box since launch. I know dedicated raiders who haven't unsubbed once and could give you a play-by-play on how to do their job yet they couldn't tell you the names of half the scions. I also know roleplayers who know the lore inside out yet don't know a thing about the main story. Why does it matter to you these players find enjoyment elsewhere?

[szalkerous]

You clearly missed the point I was making this game is not the environment to hover around old content even with wt might as well be called unsync tails. Do you think people will still run ravana extreme and bis extreme with new players if u do then we are playing diff games. They already said all dungeons will be marked as complete thus giving them a chance for all story dungeons. The only content people will still run as rolettes, because of the community jump potion is the best solution. There is no way around it this is a do current content only community and I get it now u must not somehow

There is plenty of ways around that which both I and many other people here have already outlined suggestions for. You simply didn't bother to read it.

My point was a person skipping story does not inherently make them a toxic or aggressive player. Good raiders typically aren't the extremes you're attempting to portray them. Are some? Absolutely. But that has nothing to do with a skip potion. In fact, a large number of roleplayers covet them since plenty only care about their individual stories and not the overarching plot.

And that's the thing. It's an opinion. To people who have no interest in the story, it isn't a disservice. They simply do not care about it and have likely spammed through every cut scene or dialogue box since launch. I know dedicated raiders who haven't unsubbed once and could give you a play-by-play on how to do their job yet they couldn't tell you the names of half the scions. I also know roleplayers who know the lore inside out yet don't know a thing about the main story. Why does it matter to you these players find enjoyment elsewhere?

You're mistaking "hardcore" raiders as being the same as "good" raiders, I agree that good raiders will play with a balance of determination, skill, communication, and patience. But I wager that the majority of those raiders also played all of the MSQ and enjoyed the game for what it was designed for, as well. Raiding in many MMORPGs, and especially XIV, is an "aftergame" of sorts. Something to keep those players who have "done it all" busy and interested.

RPers are a special group among themselves and I won't even begin to try and include them in this... but they generally keep to other RP groups and not the general population, and if they do need to run a roulette they are usually very patient and courteous (likely a side effect of being an RPer).

But skipping the MSQ, and the class quest stories... hell, even the Manderville line.... you miss the entire point of a Final Fantasy title. It's an experience via journey and intended to be so. There is waaay more story and lore content in this game than raiding, and the pie slices speak to exactly what Square was going for with this game. Looking at the census results tells you how much of the population actually does any of the raid content at all.

I personally don't care what parts of the game others enjoy, but if you're blasting the rest of the game away just to do the few raids in the game... that's like buying a pickup truck to use only for drag racing. You're kinda missing the point.

[Nestama]

If this were a single player game, you'd have a point. However, this is an MMO and MMO's attract various types of people. Some may enjoy the story and grind, others may not. Some enjoy being a DPS, Healer and/or tank, others just want to Craft and Gather. Some just want to do the hardcore raids, while others don't for one reason or another... or fishing is their hardcore raid.

To say those who don't care about the story are "missing the point" is a rather selfish thing to say. You're basically saying "you're not playing the game my way!"

[bswpayton]

There is plenty of ways around that which both .

What you are forgetting is jump potion would be an option one some people will take and others will not. The fact is going from the beginning will make it harder on players because of how content is viewed in this game. The games not welcoming just look at how new players are treated in the last two dungeons of arr good luck watching Cs. Players will have ever chance to do all dungeons and normal mood trails via roulletes essintally the only thing they would miss are the actual quest themselves which don't teach u how to play. This is a money grab I'm ok with that based on how the community in the game is, if u could go through the game without going out of ur way to play certain content id be opposed to jump potion but that's the case here the person starting from scratch would have to jump through hoops to play legit content snyc after everything goes unsync from hw

[KokonoeAiyoko]

It kinda defeats the purpose of having early content if you can just skip. Like, why not just start us out at level 50 if this is the case?

[AmeliaVerves]

I personally don't care what parts of the game others enjoy, but if you're blasting the rest of the game away just to do the few raids in the game... that's like buying a pickup truck to use only for drag racing. You're kinda missing the point.

I apologize for missing the point of the game when I skipped all of the MSQ.

Still, what exactly makes you believe you are more entitled playing this game than me? It is very very disrespectful to say (like you did before) that maybe FFXIV is not a game for people who skip MSQ. How could you tell? Am I a bad person because I skipp? Because you make it sound like it, which is really rude. o.o

[Jandor]

If this were a single player game, you'd have a point. However, this is an MMO and MMO's attract various types of people.

If this was a single player game, you'd probably call giving yourself instant levels and skipping 3/4 of the game cheating.

I apologize for missing the point of the game when I skipped all of the MSQ.

You didn't skip it. It isn't an option yet.

[AmeliaVerves]

You didn't skip it. It isn't an option yet.

... OK, I will change my wording to fit your needs:

I apologize for clicking away every dialogue, cutscene and every piece of text including the MSQ.


If I had the chance back then when I started playing, I would have definetly bought a MSQ Jump Potion, because I am simply not interested in it at all.
Maybe some day, but I will always have the chance to make an alt character just to get to know the story, which will probably never happen.