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  1. #31
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    ShinMetsu's Avatar
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    I thought mogstation revenue goes back into Mogstation, but i'd imagine it goes in part towards...
    Making new Mogstation stuff
    EU Server (maintenance?) - might not be the case anymore (or upcoming server upgrades now)?
    Profits for SE as a company

    At least that's how i thought it goes.


    I wish they'd actually shed some lights on their overall finances.
    I wonder how much of the revenue actually goes into Dev costs (salaries), Server maintenance, Commissions for Voice Actors/Music, Advertisement and Events, Projects other than FFXIV and actual profits for SE.
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    Last edited by ShinMetsu; 03-01-2017 at 03:55 AM.

  2. #32
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Let's see. Anyone have the cost for:

    Server maintenance on 64 servers: ???
    Server protection costs (they are a separate thing): ???
    Storage for back-ups, like character information: ???
    Heavensward budget: ~$12 million.
    Stormblood budget: ~$36 million.
    Each staff member's paycheck: ???
    Price of bringing over Korea/ Chinese region locked items: ???
    Hiring of guests for projects (not limited to songs, illustrations, cross overs, etc): ???
    Advertisement: ???
    Money invested into other projects: ???
    Organization of events (Fanfests, Tokyo Game Show, Pax, E3, etc, etc, etc): ???

    They have no obligation to tell us where any of the income goes. No business does.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 03-01-2017 at 05:17 AM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    Why is everyone so concerned about a business making money? Are the developers, producers, artists, community team and company supposed to do this for good will? So what if they make extra by selling things on Mog Station? Whether it's used to re-invest in the game providing more content or features or to simply give bonuses to people, what you get out of spending money on the Mog Station is a digital in-game item. You bought it, you got it, be happy.
    Maybe people aren't currently happy with the amount of content they are getting outside of the cash shop. Maybe they are unhappy SE charges for inventory, market board slots, and is unable to provide housing. They also cut dungeons from 3 to 2. Count months between patches as three when they are all closer to 16 weeks.

    Maybe SE should say current monthly sub isn't covering overhead. Do you honestly believe this is an overhead issue? While I somewhat blame the dev team. Some guy in some corporate office probably decided he would look good to pad his bottom line for the fiscal quarter. That never happens, no one at corporate abuses the customer base to get a bigger bonus ever /wink/nod.
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  4. #34
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    Maybe people aren't currently happy with the amount of content they are getting outside of the cash shop. Maybe they are unhappy SE charges for inventory, market board slots, and is unable to provide housing. They also cut dungeons from 3 to 2. Count months between patches as three when they are all closer to 16 weeks.
    Here's a list of all the patches and their dates. You'll find they are all pretty much within 3 months, sans 1.0.
    If you follow that same link and look at Duties (aka dungeons), you'll see you get more than two.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post

    Stormblood budget: ~$36 million.
    Here's that joke again. I LOVE IT. Please keep spreading this misinformation so the shitstorm is even bigger when the expac isnt what everyone dreams of
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Here's a list of all the patches and their dates. You'll find they are all pretty much within 3 months, sans 1.0.
    If you follow that same link and look at Duties (aka dungeons), you'll see you get more than two.
    3.1 to 3.2 count the Tuesdays 16, 3.2 to 3.3 15 Tuesdays, 3.4 to 3.5 16 Tuesdays. That is why I said weeks you can be 3 months on a Calendar and still be close 16 weeks. Now i am not sure why you said duties when I said dungeon. I believe it was 3.1 they went from 3 max dungeons to 2. You aren't counting stuff like trials are you? They even admited that we would get one less per patch. So they could work on other stuff diadem /yuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    We are getting more inventory space and another housing ward in Stormblood. Housing will also see an item limit increase. Those things take up resources continuously so I'm not sure the static sub fee can cover upgrades like that indefinitely. Unless they raise the sub fee.
    That might be a viable argument if Square made efficient use of their resources. I haven't seen their architecture or code, but some of the apparent design decisions Square makes are head scratchers from an efficiency standpoint. For example, if item inventory expansion is just gonna be a flat increase in slots, that's not the most efficient way to solve to problem of bloated inventories. A glamour log would require less data transmission and storage for essentially the same effect. Games with far less revenue compared to square offer more inventory space for items and more decor slots for their housing.

    Square does this cuz they can make a buck. That's it. It's rather disgusting to claim repeatedly Our game isn't built for f2p, so we want to use a sub model and then open a cash shop anyway after people are paying a full box price for your game AND a 15 dollar minimum monthly sub (for non-legacy).
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  8. #38
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    From what I remember from earlier, money from the Mogstation allowed for the purchase of the EU datacenters, so if the money from Mogstation goes back into the game to improve it like that, I dont mind buying an item now and then.
    At least its not like Blizzard where ALL the unique mount designs are Blizzstore only while ingame is a complete recolor of an old mount etc, and none of the money from their store seems to ever have gone BACK into their game. Most likely that money went into Overwatch development xD
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  9. #39
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    I like how everyone complains about the emote being behind a pay wall, and then I log in and find 30 dead bodies in a pile around the Limsa market boards. Guess it doesn't bother people as much as I thought.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I like how everyone complains about the emote being behind a pay wall, and then I log in and find 30 dead bodies in a pile around the Limsa market boards. Guess it doesn't bother people as much as I thought.
    Nahh...that stuff sells quite nicely, and will continue to, because a fool and their money are quickly parted :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    Most likely that money went into Overwatch development xD
    Fine by me, Overwatch is pretty rad. Just sayain ^^

    Also...does anyone actually have a link/proof of where this money goes or is this all speculation?^^ I don't really care where the Mog Station stuff goes because I do not use it at all. If it goes back into this game, well that's good. If not...whatever, its SE's money, not mine~
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