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  1. #11
    Player
    snipski's Avatar
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    Sweden
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    Lloyd Irving
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Yes i dont say they should nerf machnist to harshly but compared to summoner burst it's just way to good being able to 1-2 shot ppl alone is just broken.
    Maybe tune down the potency on Between the eyes abit would help, also ranged dps always picks the defence buff in start or at least they should i dont have that luxury as Ninja sadly.
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  2. #12
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    RedHerb's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Garza Himura
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Outside of our burst, we MCH don't have much else. We're glass cannons with no defensive anything and only one self heal compared to the other physical dps' two. Being able to deal high burst damage makes up for our defensive deficiencies.
    One self heal doesn't hold water in front lines where you can use potions. Their dps is honestly too high and the setup to achieve it is laughably easy. Additionally, hypercharge is incredibly useful.
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  3. #13
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    yumeyume's Avatar
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    Character
    Yume Yume
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    I think they should buff the SMN because SMN doesn't have any special pvp defense utilities for them. Brd/Mch has recuperated that allow them to get HP back but both blm/smn have nothing to get HP back. Brd/MCH also has second wind which is their regular abilities that they can use in pvp as well.

    BLM/SMN has Equanimity but I feel like this ability is useless cause we don't get interrupt while casting that much. I really hope that SE can buff up the caster dps pvp abilities more.
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  4. #14
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Where does WAR needs a nerf? Their burst easily counterable.
    4.2k Fell Cleaves crits twice in a row say hi.
    Even some dps dont have such burst.
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  5. #15
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Character
    Empty Inside
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    4.2k Fell Cleaves crits twice in a row say hi.
    Even some dps dont have such burst.
    5700-6k crit cleaves say hi and I still dont think it needs a nerf since the burst is very obvious and can be countered pretty well besides that fell cleaves hit like a wet noodle nerfing it even more would be lul
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  6. #16
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    Enlial's Avatar
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    Character
    Aleister Noir
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    In a vacuum, MCH's burst can be easily countered too, just like anything else. The goal is to create and exploit situations where it can't be.

    I don't think warrior is overpowered exactly, but it probably is too out of line with the other jobs filling the tank role in its burst damage dealing capability. Could stand to have damage toned down a bit in exchange for more utility.

    DRK and NIN need buffs more than anything needs nerfing
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  7. #17
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Character
    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    MCH need adjustments their burst is not only way to strong also they have enough CC to protect themself/party members.
    I consider that a saving grace for the deficiencies we have. Also let's talk about BRD's instant 100-0 burst before we shine a spotlight on MCH, lol. In fairness, both can be countered if you see it coming, but good BRDs/MCHs can still catch someone by surprise. There's also the it crit/didn't crit part of the MCH burst that's a nice little dice roll when you do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedHerb View Post
    One self heal doesn't hold water in front lines where you can use potions. Their dps is honestly too high and the setup to achieve it is laughably easy. Additionally, hypercharge is incredibly useful.
    Lol, trust me, potions don't do much either when you've got the enemy team in your ass like a thong. And yeah, Hypercharge is great, but if a MCH is using it, you can (try to) get out of range and wait it out.
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  8. #18
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    TiramisuMacaron's Avatar
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I consider that a saving grace for the deficiencies we have. Also let's talk about BRD's instant 100-0 burst before we shine a spotlight on MCH, lol. In fairness, both can be countered if you see it coming, but good BRDs/MCHs can still catch someone by surprise. There's also the it crit/didn't crit part of the MCH burst that's a nice little dice roll when you do it.
    At the highest level of play mch and brd aren't even comparable. Mch had a 100-0 combo, plus enough cc that it is like playing against a second paladin. It is leaps and bounds ahead of other ranged DPS since blm has been nerfed. Mch is also much harder to counter because it is much better at protecting itself, additionally it's burst window is 20s without cast time abilities where bards is 10s and requires a casted ability.
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  9. #19
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Character
    Owa Owa
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    DRK needs to be massively buffed to be taken seriously. A waste of party slot at the moment.
    Some could argue Warrior needs to be toned down as opposed to DRK needing a buff.
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  10. #20
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    Kyani's Avatar
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    Kyani Jawantal
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    Some could argue Warrior needs to be toned down as opposed to DRK needing a buff.
    PLD and WAR are way closer to each other than DRK is to either.
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