3.55 PVP Balancing.

[TiaHariberux3]

Outside of our burst, we MCH don't have much else. We're glass cannons with no defensive anything and only one self heal compared to the other physical dps' two. Being able to deal high burst damage makes up for our defensive deficiencies.

MCH need adjustments their burst is not only way to strong also they have enough CC to protect themself/party members.

WAR need to be nerfed a bit. Broken jobs at the moment.

Where does WAR needs a nerf? Their burst easily counterable.

[SuperZay]

Where does WAR needs a nerf? Their burst easily counterable.

4.2k Fell Cleaves crits twice in a row say hi.
Even some dps dont have such burst.

[TiaHariberux3]

4.2k Fell Cleaves crits twice in a row say hi.
Even some dps dont have such burst.

5700-6k crit cleaves say hi and I still dont think it needs a nerf since the burst is very obvious and can be countered pretty well besides that fell cleaves hit like a wet noodle nerfing it even more would be lul

[SuperZay]

5700-6k crit cleaves say hi and I still dont think it needs a nerf since the burst is very obvious and can be countered pretty well besides that fell cleaves hit like a wet noodle nerfing it even more would be lul

How exactly do you counter it If I burst the same target with other dps and kill it? Oops, you didnt countered it.

[TiramisuMacaron]

How exactly do you counter it If I burst the same target with other dps and kill it? Oops, you didnt countered it.

Shield bash in between the cleaves throws a warrior back hard, and since it is a tank, stun dr is usually up. Even Monk stun works to give a healer enough time.

[SuperZay]

Shield bash in between the cleaves throws a warrior back hard, and since it is a tank, stun dr is usually up. Even Monk stun works to give a healer enough time.

I almost never get stunned unless bursted. Probably because there are no good paladins left in solo. And a good paladin is even better warrior.
There is I think only 1 paladin in Chaos' Top 100 and 2 DRKs. The rest are warriors because obviously it's the best tank for solo.
Burst and kills almost always overweight party protection.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

MCH need adjustments their burst is not only way to strong also they have enough CC to protect themself/party members.

I consider that a saving grace for the deficiencies we have. Also let's talk about BRD's instant 100-0 burst before we shine a spotlight on MCH, lol. In fairness, both can be countered if you see it coming, but good BRDs/MCHs can still catch someone by surprise. There's also the it crit/didn't crit part of the MCH burst that's a nice little dice roll when you do it.

One self heal doesn't hold water in front lines where you can use potions. Their dps is honestly too high and the setup to achieve it is laughably easy. Additionally, hypercharge is incredibly useful.

Lol, trust me, potions don't do much either when you've got the enemy team in your ass like a thong. And yeah, Hypercharge is great, but if a MCH is using it, you can (try to) get out of range and wait it out.

[TiramisuMacaron]

I consider that a saving grace for the deficiencies we have. Also let's talk about BRD's instant 100-0 burst before we shine a spotlight on MCH, lol. In fairness, both can be countered if you see it coming, but good BRDs/MCHs can still catch someone by surprise. There's also the it crit/didn't crit part of the MCH burst that's a nice little dice roll when you do it.

At the highest level of play mch and brd aren't even comparable. Mch had a 100-0 combo, plus enough cc that it is like playing against a second paladin. It is leaps and bounds ahead of other ranged DPS since blm has been nerfed. Mch is also much harder to counter because it is much better at protecting itself, additionally it's burst window is 20s without cast time abilities where bards is 10s and requires a casted ability.

[Araxes]

Where does WAR needs a nerf? Their burst easily counterable.

Lot of people still cant counter it. They dont purify, they dont sleep and they dont root. So its the Warrios Fault cause op.