Is our sub fee not enought

[Parisstilton]

Agreed. Speaking as a fairly new player who left a free to play mmo because I was fed up of feeling like I was constantly being forced to put my hands in my pocket, I have to say this behaviour is less than encouraging. I understand (and in some cases I'm grateful for) the chance to buy stuff from past events but putting brand new stuff in without a chance to get it for free in game? Well that feels like SE are laughing at me all the way to the bank

[Underdog2204]

Agreed. Speaking as a fairly new player who left a free to play mmo because I was fed up of feeling like I was constantly being forced to put my hands in my pocket

There it is again... Talk about hyperbole.

[Parisstilton]

There it is again... Talk about hyperbole.

Excuse me but I never said that SE were forcing me to put my hand in my pocket. I said that about the old mmo. Which also incidentally started with items you didn't need and ended up making content so mind numbingly grindy then putting quick fixes for it in the store.I said was I was happy to have stuff no longer available there but new stuff should at least have a chance to be got in game somehow even if it's for a limited event. After all isn't that part of the reason to play the game to earn the stuff you want?

[Underdog2204]

Excuse me but I never said that SE were forcing me to put my hand in my pocket. What I said was I was happy to have stuff no longer available there but new stuff should at least have a chance to be got in game somehow even if it's for a limited event.

Not in those words, that was the implication.

You "feel" like you a being "forced" to like getting stuff in a F2P game that can offer very real character boost's and gear for a price.

If people contiune to buy them then full credit for making money (you know like businesses should) as the consumer is enfocing it.

[Parisstilton]

Not in those words, that was the implication.

You "feel" like you a being "forced" to like getting stuff in a F2P game that can offer very real character boost's and gear for a price.

If people contiune to buy them then full credit for making money (you know like businesses should) as the consumer is enfocing it.

Well now you mentioned it aren't they planning to do just that soon? Jump potions and job leveling? Like I said I never meant to imply that SE were forcing me yet. Just that I really hope they don't start down that road.

[Underdog2204]

Well now you mentioned it aren't they planning to do just that soon? Jump potions and job leveling? Like I said I never meant to imply that SE were forcing me yet. Just that I really hope they don't start down that road.

Yup they are.

Now as to if that is a genuine boost or not who's to say, since the amount of work new players need to get though to reach newer expansions is vast now. A necessary evil to keep the game alive tbh.

Am sure some of the moral crusaders would be all on about how "unfair" etc it is. Yet these people would rather see the game die and get no new blood than get off their high horse. Many new players get burned out just getting into Heavensward, can you imagine doubling that amount of work with Heavensward?