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  1. #71
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    thegreatonemal's Avatar
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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Marilith
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Then why take 5 dps?
    whens the last time you saw a standard party comp for zurvan in pf? people still kill him at around the same time regardless if you skip or not
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  2. #72
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    Dacien Valtin
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    whens the last time you saw a standard party comp for zurvan in pf?
    That's exactly my point.

    5 Dps to skip Soar, still doesn't happen alot of the time.
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  3. #73
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    That's exactly my point.

    5 Dps to skip Soar, still doesn't happen alot of the time.
    Which is funny cus I tanked for a 1/1/6dps and we still couldn't skip.
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  4. #74
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    Esmond Rainer
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I think people shouldn't raging in chat about low DPS, just either left, disband & remake without the low dps or just carry them. Raging is kinda not nice.

    However, I see nothing wrong with parsing in farm. You don't know how sad the parser look sometimes. Maybe you should parse and you may understand why people rage quit.

    When i go as healer and DPS, and the fight is so solo-healable but the co-healer heal only and then jump around while no healing required, i feel stupid (for letting myself put so much effort in while I could learn from "the best" and get easy time). Or when I go as dps and only 1 or 2 dps are at the top of the chart (me included ofc), all other dps are at around the tank level with 300-400 dps lower than the top or 2nd dps. When i got those kind of dps i do 1 or 2 runs and say good bye, unless i somehow got the bird and have to stay for a few more runs.

    Often, the one bad dps got the bird while you stare at them with your hands kinda hurting from all that high KPM (keys per minute) smashing you did. :P
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  5. #75
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
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  6. #76
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    Ren Kurosaki
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    Diabolos
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    This had happened to me today, I joined a Zurvan EX farm and they wanted high DPS. I thought maybe I would be one of the DPS that could deliver high deeps, but when the team discovered that they didn't skip the first soar, they started complaining; immediately, the tank claim that I was one of DPS who lacked attack power. So, I just did them a favor and left because I didn't want to slow the team down.

    Having high dps is pretty good because the boss goes down faster, but worrying over DPS from one simple mechanic is getting ridiculous. So what if whether or not you skip soar, just as long as you don't screw up the other mechanics, the team still should be able to get those clears (and maybe bird).

    The farm party that I joined before the one I described, we cleared Zurvan EX 4 times in a row - PERFECTLY - and we had to do the soars.
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    Last edited by DreamAngel-Ren; 02-27-2017 at 07:15 AM.

  7. #77
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Welcome to FFXIV in 2017. We have what we deserve, because we didn't stop this people form turn the community into this.
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  8. #78
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Normalizer View Post
    You don't know how sad the parser look sometimes
    People make out like they're 5 or 10 dps lower than someone else and the filthy parsing people blow up and demand they be booted

    in reality, it's not uncommon for the disparity to be huge. Other day we had one dps on 2000+ and one on 1200 (same class).
    I don't really understand how people can argue that the current system with everyone "officially" in the dark as to who's dragging the entire party down is acceptable, but that's just imo
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Welcome to FFXIV in 2017. We have what we deserve, because we didn't stop this people form turn the community into this.
    A community where we call out underperforming people for not putting in as much effort as everyone else? Yes, please!
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  10. #80
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Most of the serious fights in this game have DPS checks.

    I can understand the frustration with low DPS, depending on the situation.
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