What changes will push sch out of meta

[IttyBitty]

Another thought... Quick fix SE could do right now: Slash the cost of all WHM DPS spells (except maybe holy) in half.

WHM already tops the charts for healer DPS in both dungeons and raids. Just let them do that without needing MP support and it would have its own niche.

Selfish DPS doesn't make a class desirable. It actually has the exact opposite effect - we can see this VERY clearly by looking at MNK. Utiltiy and class synergy are what makes a group work better. "Selfish" classes would have to do so much more DPS to be desired that the meta would shift entirely to stacking them, most likely.

[Risvertasashi]

Selfish DPS doesn't make a class desirable. It actually has the exact opposite effect - we can see this VERY clearly by looking at MNK. Utiltiy and class synergy are what makes a group work better. "Selfish" classes would have to do so much more DPS to be desired that the meta would shift entirely to stacking them, most likely.

Ah, but WHM could still do bursty heals in between. And it would remove a big incentive for taking SCH instead -- currently SCH DPS is weaker, but self sufficient. Still no fairy, but WHM could spare a few GCDs out of cleric and still do a lot of healing in that brief time.

The only healer that has utility outside of direct healing and mitigation is AST. So both WHM and SCH are 'selfish' (as you use the word) already.

But you are right in that nothing will compare to RR'd balance, and groups already stack ASTs for parser runs.

[Fernosaur]

The only healer that has utility outside of direct healing and mitigation is AST. So both WHM and SCH are 'selfish' (as you use the word) already.

Except Scholar doesn't only bring their own DPS to the table. The fairy's constant healing, the AoE regen along with the MDEF and healing potency buff actually help the other healer DPS a lot more. The entire first 30-40 seconds of A10S can be handled by Eos alone with a pre-deployed Adlo buffer, for example. That's almost a minute in which neither of the healers have to heal at all, and this applies to a lot of different duties that have high raid damage at the start of the fight. Other examples are A9S, Nidhogg, Sephirot and Thordan back in the day. Hell, Sophia's entire first and second phases can be solo healed by either of the fairies too, I'd dare say the fairy can solo heal around 60% of the entire fight lmao.

Even if WHM's personal DPS was super high, it still wouldn't really compare to that, but BIG buffs to its MP regeneration and shortening some instant healing CDs could make it at least not undesireable.