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    ToasterMan's Avatar
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    First of all, the reason why the PvP in this game has depth wasn't my question, my question was, what makes it good? As for not showing why it's bad, This thread already provides plenty of reasons why people think it's bad. I just agree with almost everything that's mentioned here in regards to issues. To relist them all again would be redundant. The ball is in your court. The fact that this thread even exists is a reason. The fact that nobody plays this PvP should be a red flag that something probably isn't right.

    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    Reason: This game is very casual. It doesn't try to give people a reason to improve or to get good at it. It barely teaches players the ins and outs and expects everyone to be okay with an individual's "play style".
    Incorrect. If you ask a GM, kicking people for different play styles is totally acceptable. Plenty of people on this forum have said that.

    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    For a game that is primarily a PvE focused game, why is the raiding community so utterly small and considered a minority amongst the playerbase? Why does challenging content only become populated after severe nerfs? Why does the player-base always ask for nerfs on aspects of the game they find too hard? Why did people quit the raiding scene in Gordias?
    Gordias was one of the worst things to ever happen to this game. People quit the raiding scene in Gordias because they realized the challenge in it just wasn't worth it. It had terrible design, in fact, part of the challenge was adapting to it's awful design (Which isn't good challenge.). It was also the fact that it was no were near as good as coil was. There's only so much time people will spend banging into the A3S wall until they decide to go do something better with their time. I haven't played this game seriously in like two months. Building settlements in Fallout 4 is more fun for me right now then grinding light on my anima OR playing the PvP in this game.

    There's a lot of people who would like to raid, but can't find the people to do it with or just don't have the time. Back in 2.0 EVERYBODY I knew wanted to do coil, and I used to be on Faerie, a server that was considered to be the most casual at the time. The people on here wanting nerfs is a vocal minority, and isn't most of the player base at all. As for the people populating content once it's nerfed, that's really just for farming it. My own static is like this. We were bird farming Bismarck yesterday because we figured it was easy to do, why not? We didn't ask for the nerf. It's pretty much the same for everyone else.

    But Gordias being too hard or raiding in general have nothing to do with PvP, because the two activities are completely different animals. Raiding will always have a set difficulty (Unless the devs physically go in and make it easier or harder) While PvP, can theoretically be any challenge, The challenge to a match is dependent on the skill level of your opponent.

    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    Regarding to people playing CS:GO and Dota 2, realize it's not the same community playing those games as the one playing this game.
    Actually, technically parts of these game communities are the same. People don't just play one game religiously. I've got friends on this game that play both of those games. The DRK in my old static plays overwatch regularly. I can't tell you how many people on this game play League. People in this game pretty much play any PvP game out there right now besides this one

    This game being primarily PvE focused is........honestly irrelevant. When deciding what PvP I'm gonna play, I'm not gonna feel sorry for this games PvP because it comes from a PvE focused game and chose it because of that, I'm gonna go play League because it's better. When your group chooses a DPS for your raid, you don't choose the person who does least amount right? You pick the best one. That's what the majority of the player base is doing when they pick a PvP to play.

    You zoomed right in on the complaint the OP had about healing and ignored everything else he brought up.
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    Last edited by ToasterMan; 02-23-2017 at 12:24 PM.