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  1. #711
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    So i am still wondering and baffled why PvP got a change made to it because "toxicity" when PvE is worse. People make preformed groups to kick abuse people, so on.

    Also like to know why the lack of response with this issue
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  2. #712
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    So i am still wondering and baffled why PvP got a change made to it because "toxicity" when PvE is worse. People make preformed groups to kick abuse people, so on.

    Also like to know why the lack of response with this issue
    It's all about the MONEY and the PvE community is much larger then the PvP community. They are the ones that keep the game going, not the PvP paying subscribers.
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  3. #713
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    It's all about the MONEY and the PvE community is much larger then the PvP community. They are the ones that keep the game going, not the PvP paying subscribers.
    but the point is if they are not going to do anything to baby PvE people in acting civil, why attack PvP when the "population is so small, it shouldn't matter ?????

    Also you are telling me, it is ok to promote toxicity just as long as the player base is big enough for money?
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 02-20-2017 at 11:00 PM.

  4. #714
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    but the point is if they are not going to do anything to baby PvE people in acting civil, why attack PvP when the "population is so small, it shouldn't matter ?????

    Also you are telling me, it is ok to promote toxicity just as long as the player base is big enough for money?
    No, im saying SE is a business and most of their actions has been to cater to making as much money as possible, cash shop, tying minions and emote to limited time merchandise, placing old season items in cash shop and not allowing players to sell them on MB. Chat ban is just a easy fix to cater to all the PvE players who might of complain about the toxicity in feast.
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  5. #715
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    No, im saying SE is a business and most of their actions has been to cater to making as much money as possible, cash shop, tying minions and emote to limited time merchandise, placing old season items in cash shop and not allowing players to sell them on MB. Chat ban is just a easy fix to cater to all the PvE players who might of complain about the toxicity in feast.
    That makes no sense. Why are they allowed to be toxic in PvE and not PvP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    That makes no sense. Why are they allowed to be toxic in PvE and not PvP?
    Because the PvE players base is probably 100x bigger then the PvP players base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    That makes no sense. Why are they allowed to be toxic in PvE and not PvP?
    Because if they did the same chat removal quick-fix to PvE content that they did to PvP content they'd be cutting their throats as everyone would drop their subscriptions. I'm guessing they chose to remove chat in feast because they weren't afraid of a 1% loss in subs from the PvP community and it placated the PvE people who were getting shit on by other PvE people and then blaming the core PvP community to avoid a 5% loss in subs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    Because if they did the same chat removal quick-fix to PvE content that they did to PvP content they'd be cutting their throats as everyone would drop their subscriptions. I'm guessing they chose to remove chat in feast because they weren't afraid of a 1% loss in subs from the PvP community and it placated the PvE people who were getting shit on by other PvE people and then blaming the core PvP community to avoid a 5% loss in subs.
    It is insulting to me that no care is given when there is PvE abuse, like I can't get the final clear rewards and wasted 30-40 mins of my time because a preform went to abuse kick. There should be more serve consequences for such a thing esp when there was no arguments taking place, just wanted give fc mate a free ride to lass boss or something, along with victim compensation.

    So they can dish it out in PvE, but put in PvP they can't take it? double standard much? This is not fair in picking on us for a filter just because we are a small player base. We have a small player base because so little care is put into PvP design. We have a small player base because of actions like this.
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  10. #719
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    I Must say as a new player to pvp I got in an notice I was not able to chat.
    I got in as a tank an I have to idea what to do in there all I know is that I always lose an got not idea why, took me 10 try to abandon it. Pretty sure I'm the blame of it but since I can't ask an can't learn.
    Now I do the big one with 72ppl, learn how to play it in like 2 days thx to the other players that explain how it was done.
    Still got no idea what's going on in 8vs8.
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    Holy hell ... this is STILL going on? I've been gone for more than a week now ... I figured SE would have at least done something. Even a public service announcement ... anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by vigioX-Sun View Post
    Still got no idea what's going on in 8vs8.
    As for you, I feel your pain. Since SE has decided that cooperation is not in the spirit of team oriented gameplay, coming to the forums is probably your best bet. Without knowing specifically which tank you play as, the best general advice we can give you is to never, EVER, pick up more than 4 stacks of medals. Sometimes you can get away with more in 8v8, but if you get more than 5, you had better amscray ASAP. Find a corner and suck your thumb for a bit. After that, it's about knowing what your specific role can do, and doing it. If you have any specific questions about a specific tank, it would be a good idea to ask them or post your own thread topic. You'll usually you'll get an answer from someone who's been around the block.
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