100M GIL taken

[SDaemon]

That was a very recent mechanic added. And it's likely easier to leave the promote mechanic the way it is than to change it. Again, it's not SE's fault. It's like saying knife manufacturers are to blame when people are assaulted or killed with knives.

I gained ownership of my FC in this way back in ARR, so it isn't a very recent mechanic...

[Masekase_Hurricane]

That was a very recent mechanic added. And it's likely easier to leave the promote mechanic the way it is than to change it. Again, it's not SE's fault. It's like saying knife manufacturers are to blame when people are assaulted or killed with knives.

Not really knifes have safety measures to protect people. We have no proper safety measures in place in a FC. An officer should have the responsibility to promote/demote/kick people yet we can't give them all options in case we get screwed over.

Also not recent I am sure it came out between 2.2-2.4

[Kaedan]

Not really knifes have safety measures to protect people. We have no proper safety measures in place in a FC. An officer should have the responsibility to promote/demote/kick people yet we can't give them all options in case we get screwed over.

Also not recent I am sure it came out between 2.2-2.4

Yes, that's recent. Meaning it was added well after the fact. The original mechanic to prevent FCs from having to disband in the case the leader quits was the ability to allow people of lower rank to promote up (if the master agreed).

And what are you talking about "no safety measures"? The master has full control over who gets the ability and who doesn't. You'd only have a valid point if you couldn't change the permission setting.

[Maero]

Very sorry to hear and possibly try and rebuild and learn from the experience.
Myself i do trust the officers but for the most part have all ranks but myself to deposit gil only, they could always ask if gil is needed.
We have our 3rd tab of the FC chest set so only officers and crafters have access as it is mostly mats and stuff from airship voyages.
Now the members that were booted out may not be too friendly anymore but i would talk to them.
Sorry if you have not said if you have or not but sure hope you got rid of the person that did this?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Yes, that's recent. Meaning it was added well after the fact. The original mechanic to prevent FCs from having to disband in the case the leader quits was the ability to allow people of lower rank to promote up (if the master agreed).

And what are you talking about "no safety measures"? The master has full control over who gets the ability and who doesn't. You'd only have a valid point if you couldn't change the permission setting.

Recent is not 2.2-2.4 and def not when we are talking 2 years ago that is not recent. How does it make any sense that someone lower than you can just promote themselves to leader.

The blame lays solely with the FC leader. I don't honestly think the mods should have to devote time to stuff like this.

And the end of the day it's a lapse of judgment on the FC leaders part. So what are the mods supposed to do about that?

100% true about the leader, yet at the same time it shouldn't even be an issue. Even the most basic of games wouldn't even allow this. Hell even linkshells don't allow the leaders to take over the master it's stupid and should be fixed.

Maybe there is a misunderstanding about how the mechanic works? The master has full control over who has the ability and who doesn't. It makes perfect sense. And it gives you another option to prevent having to disband the FC. Yes, the automatic switch over will eventually happen, but it takes time. If there is an urgency due to the leader having a sudden emergency and leaving the game and the FC is hardcore, then having to wait a month or more is not going to cut it. That's where the promote mechanic comes into play.

Again, I'm not condoning what the person did to the OP, but people are trying to blame a mechanic that isn't at all to blame.

No I think you are misunderstanding I am fully aware how the system works. Yet the leader has too many responsibility's and should be able to offload to officers. Your point is silly, as their is an option available 30 or 45 days of inactivity also you don't have to disband the FC.

You just made the same point others are making for this to be possible you would have to give someone the option to promote/demote. Which you can't do as you risk being screwed over. Regardless of a sudden emergency you are not gonna risk passing leader to someone to find that when you get back the FC is sold, house demolished,robbed,ships dismantled etc.

It makes zero logical sense to remove an option that is potentially beneficial just because it can be abused if the leader is careless.

No one is asking for it to be removed they are asking for it to be adjusted.

[AlexanderThorolund]

The blame lays solely with the FC leader. I don't honestly think the mods should have to devote time to stuff like this.

And the end of the day it's a lapse of judgment on the FC leaders part. So what are the mods supposed to do about that?

[Shaemus_Jodocus]

After I had logged out is when they promote themself to the rank that was only for my alt. after taking my 100m and dismantling my 4 rank 50 airships they destroyed the workshop kicked all members and deleted all 180 housing items. when i got back i was alone with an empty house ince then only 2 ppl have returned to the FC and no i would never let them back in, but on lodestone the id is now deleted so they didnt change race name or server its completely gone.

[Kaedan]

How does it make any sense that someone lower than you can just promote themselves to leader.

Maybe there is a misunderstanding about how the mechanic works? The master has full control over who has the ability and who doesn't. It makes perfect sense. And it gives you another option to prevent having to disband the FC. Yes, the automatic switch over will eventually happen, but it takes time. If there is an urgency due to the leader having a sudden emergency and leaving the game and the FC is hardcore, then having to wait a month or more is not going to cut it. That's where the promote mechanic comes into play.

Again, I'm not condoning what the person did to the OP, but people are trying to blame a mechanic that isn't at all to blame.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

I'm afraid of something like that too. So when I create a new rank, I make sure I UNTICK EVERY SINGLE THING, before I select what rights I want to give that rank.

[Kaedan]

I'm afraid of something like that too. So when I create a new rank, I make sure I UNTICK EVERY SINGLE THING, before I select what rights I want to give that rank.

Precisely. It's always better to have more options. It makes zero logical sense to remove an option that is potentially beneficial just because it can be abused if the leader is careless.

And that's what it is. Carelessness. You can choose not to use the mechanic at all and never risk what happened to the OP.