What would you like to see/change for Omega Raid?

[CookieMonsta]

Few things.


3. More variety. I liked a lot the Alexander. But it is always machines and goblins. More variety of enemies could be cool.

With that I'm happy.

1. But then that makes clearing the encounter all but certain. It shifts the skill burden to the healers because they then become capable of carrying lesser players who cannot do mechanics. Punishing mechanics exist for the reason of ensuring the 8 party members are reasonably challenged equally.
Though I would rather mechanics are punishing by merit instead of by design, like the boss hits really hard naturally or he applies a continuous debuff on the party (thus making raid hits naturally punishing). I think the real issue is the mechanics so far feel too polar, you either clear the mechanic and get away unscathed or get punished really hard. There are few mechanics that are unavoidably punishing but you can mitigate its impact through skillful play/composition.

[Yeol]

I accutally want a fight where the goal is to stay alive and press/interact with things/buttons in order to activate self destruct for the place. Rather than burning the boss down.
The CS should be raid members escaping the explosion then doing their victory poses.

[Shurrikhan]

I accutally want a fight where the goal is to stay alive and press/interact with things/buttons in order to activate self destruct for the place. Rather than burning the boss down.
The CS should be raid members escaping the explosion then doing their victory poses.

I feel like a fight of that type ought to be on every raid MMO's bucket list for at least one fight across all its expansions. Maybe Stormblood will have the opportunity? One can hope. I'd certainly like to see it.

That said, could use some "interact"ions that go beyond simply raising a palm towards the object's hitbox column at shoulder level every time...

[Skeltal-Bons]

Memorization is why Touhou is a thing. Players know what's coming next and prepare accordingly. Memorization is as much a skill as reaction time.

On that note, I'm in favor of the next crossover event being with Touhou.
Large fates like odin with crazy huge amounts of bullets and silly Touhou hats as the prizes, as well as a few minions

[Khalithar]

Absolutely no "kill adds in time to not be killed by the ultimate" mechanic. Seriously, that mechanic is so over done at this point I'd be happy to never see it again, ever.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

Arenas that aren't just circular, square or rectangular, c'mon, some more variety would be nice, remember in Binding Coil T1 where you hopped around on different platforms? Remember in T5 where the terrain was uneven? More of those would be appreciated, Bismark was the only Primal not to have a circle/square arena.

I also agree that coil felt like you were delving into the unknown, would like to see more of that kind of feeling when diving into raids.

[ADVSS]

Absolutely no "kill adds in time to not be killed by the ultimate" mechanic. Seriously, that mechanic is so over done at this point I'd be happy to never see it again, ever.

This is like the only certain mechanic in every trial/raid ever. I agree. Maybe they need to give us buffer adds that we dont want to kill or need to keep alive so we can deal massive dmg/survive some mechanics, that would be interesting, have the off tank bus the adds to where theyre needed. not hold them down for total destruction or the party dies

[Iromi]

- An actual battle ground that is not a square or circle. I'd love to fight in a forest, etc.
- (Subjective) gear that looks really fantasy like and pretty
- Enough with the jump rope tactics
- Allow recovery, its fun and can make it more challenging sometimes. In Tera, the most difficult fights I did revolved around recovering the party.
- Stop relying so heavily on adds in the fights. Even in 1.x this was a problem.

[Duelle]

One thing I loved about Coil that was sorely missing with Alexander was that sense of journeying into the unknown.

Coil was a mystery. What was down there? What will I find and how will I deal with it? "Holy crap, look at the size of that!" "It's you!"

That's not entirely reasonable. Coil was a "mystery" because it managed to be something we had never seen before (crystals and technological ruins) in addition to being linked to story elements that were built up over the whole of ARR (read: everyone and their mother talking about the Calamity). The reveals also didn't mean much if you never played during 1.0. "Oh, it's that grumpy girl from the early storyline. Oh, some stuff about a dude she's looking for. Oh, so that's what happened after the whiteout..." etc.

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Something we should also talk about is raid dungeons as part of a tier. Coil and Alex were basically corridors leading to a boss and nothing else. I'd rather Omega be Stormblood's "tier 1" raid, then introduce something new for 4.2 and then finish it off with a third raid for 4.4. Of course, the challenge is in needing a cohesive story to tie the three different locations together; you'd need to introduce something near the beginning of Stormblood and have it pop up once in a while to build things up. It's also a resource-intensive approach.

This is like the only certain mechanic in every trial/raid ever. I agree. Maybe they need to give us buffer adds that we dont want to kill or need to keep alive so we can deal massive dmg/survive some mechanics, that would be interesting, have the off tank bus the adds to where theyre needed. not hold them down for total destruction or the party dies

The trade-off would be making those adds hit really hard or create a kill priority via mechanics.

For example, you could make an add that when they die does something to the boss to make them take more damage for a bit. Making an add particularly dangerous to the off-tank would also work. It's a pity we don't have a job that can mind-control mobs, because a mob that has to be mind-controlled to make the fight doable would be interesting. Adds that need to be killed by the raid before the boss gets them would also be something new for this game.

[loreleidiangelo]

I really don't see what's interesting in this. I think being able to dps and heal requires way more skills

I respectfully disagree. I think our current healer DPS meta was BORN as a result of healing in this game being too overpowered and easy to learn. I think this is why we've started to see a recent upswing in requests like the one on page 1 - "make raids more about mitigation/tank swapping/positioning/add pickup and actual cleansable debuffs/more shielding/higher HPS checks". (Aka, let tanks tank and healers heal.)

I think that people are starting to realize that healer DPS is less about skill, and more about the role simply being too boring and unengaging without it. (If it truly required "skill", IMO, it wouldn't be touted as pretty much necessary from all healers at all level of content in the game.)