Is DPS'ing as a Healer Vote Kickable?

[AutoWhit]

Can't wait to see what all of you "you better be dpsing if there's nothing to heal" people have to say when the combat changes come in 4.0 and healers either can't dps at all, or their dps viability gets so nerffed it's not even worth it to switch stances.

Just guessing, of course, but I can see SE putting an end to this argument. I have a feeling there's gonna be a whole lot of dpsers out there that are gonna be upset at having to step up their game rather than blame healers for low party dps.

[Pomelo]

Is this thread literally hating on Healers who DPS? LOLOLOL.

Been doing it since early access, playing healer is already easymode near enough, if you aren't dpsing you aren't playing to your best ability or potential. I dunno what else to say, except:

Healers who only heal: was vote dismissed :P

Can't wait to see what all of you "you better be dpsing if there's nothing to heal" people have to say when the combat changes come in 4.0 and healers either can't dps at all, or their dps viability gets so nerffed it's not even worth it to switch stances.

Just guessing, of course, but I can see SE putting an end to this argument. I have a feeling there's gonna be a whole lot of dpsers out there that are gonna be upset at having to step up their game rather than blame healers for low party dps.

LOL this is definitely not going to happen, no way. They might remove cleric stance, yes they might. But they might make MIND the stat used for attack magic on healers, then what are you gonna do then? You don't know the changes lmfao >.< None of us do!

DPSing in a way is still helping you heal, its preventing your party from taking damage in some situations: when things die faster, STUN/SLOW (WHM/SCH) is extremely good mitigations.

[Hazakh]

Can't wait to see what all of you "you better be dpsing if there's nothing to heal" people have to say when the combat changes come in 4.0 and healers either can't dps at all, or their dps viability gets so nerffed it's not even worth it to switch stances.

Just guessing, of course, but I can see SE putting an end to this argument.

You're missing the point. If the combat changes towards that direction, then the players will eventually adjust to optimise for that kind of playstyle. However, what's in discussion is the CURRENT state of the game where healers are fully capable of putting out decent DPS while keeping everyone up in health without dying.

[Risvertasashi]

Just guessing, of course, but I can see SE putting an end to this argument.

SE's actions so far have been to acknowledge healer DPSing as a playstyle but to continue to design encounters without the expectation of healer DPS. I don't share your confidence that SE will change it much.

The real tragedy of this thread is it's devolved into yet another healer DPS argument, instead of the ridiculously low bar for kicking people.

[jameseoakes]

Can't wait to see what all of you "you better be dpsing if there's nothing to heal" people have to say when the combat changes come in 4.0 and healers either can't dps at all, or their dps viability gets so nerffed it's not even worth it to switch stances.

Just guessing, of course, but I can see SE putting an end to this argument. I have a feeling there's gonna be a whole lot of dpsers out there that are gonna be upset at having to step up their game rather than blame healers for low party dps.

I think a lot of us would stop healing and cause some serious problems with queues also to make that viable they would have to increase the healing requirements and make more mechanics for healers to deal with which would probably affect the players who struggle with healing and can't DPS a lot more than the ones who can do both.

[Taika]

Can't wait to see what all of you "you better be dpsing if there's nothing to heal" people have to say when the combat changes come in 4.0 and healers either can't dps at all, or their dps viability gets so nerffed it's not even worth it to switch stances.

I would just quit playing any healer jobs. I chose healer especially because of the versatility of the role. If that's taken away, I will lose interest and try something else.

Just guessing, of course, but I can see SE putting an end to this argument. I have a feeling there's gonna be a whole lot of dpsers out there that are gonna be upset at having to step up their game rather than blame healers for low party dps.

Honestly, I highly doubt it will happen. DPS has been a vital part of all healer jobs in the game since 1.0... And they've emphasised it more and more with adding more DPS skills in Heavensward and then bringing the topic up in Novice hall.

Soloing, actually. Hard to level from 1 - 15 or do MSQs as a Healing Job if you lack any kind of ability to deal damage.

This argument is immediately invalidated by the sheer number of DPS abilities the healers have available for them - and the fact they keep gaining more and more DPS tools as they level higher.

Before level 15 - at the solo levels - WHM (Conjurer) only gets Stone and Aero. At the group content levels they get Stone II, Stone III, Aero II, Aero III, Holy and Assize (and Fluid Aura).

[Hayward]

A damage dealer or tank who fulfills their primary role with minimal efficiency to clear the content is not a good player. A healer is not exempt from that, and to say otherwise is completely ignorant of how the game has been designed.

So a healer who isn't interested in XIVLogs parses but gets the job done isn't a good player?

Have a seat, please. Have ALL the seats at your local stadium, in fact.

[Yeol]

And here today I've had one dps dropping off Zurvan EX farm party because it was too casual for him.
No healers or tank dps was the reason he dropped. *forces a smile*

[Watachy]

So a healer who isn't interested in XIVLogs parses but gets the job done isn't a good player?

Have a seat, please. Have ALL the seats at your local stadium, in fact.

A healer having the job done is a healer dpsing

[AutoWhit]

All I'm saying is when I'm playing I care what I'm doing and play my role to the best of my ability, which is dps (usually). All I care about the tank is that he/she is holding aggro, and all I care about the healer is that he/she is keeping everyone alive.

I don't care if a healer wants to dps, but you will NEVER hear me calling out a healer for NOT dpsing if it seems like the group is killing things slowly....that falls to me and the other dps.

edit: healer dps is a bonus and should be treated that way