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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    A bad player is one who fails duties, dragging down the players they're grouped with.
    There is no grey area with that. You can be 'good' enough to clear basic content. But any kind of 'bad' is enough to fail duties.
    So, outside of ex/savage content there are no "bad players"? I had one timeout once in Amdapor (nm) back in 2015 in a dungeon, so I guess there are only minimal good, good, great and excellent players out there?

    Also I don't get why people judge the players instead of their actions.
    Doing nothing is bad/lazy.
    Doing overheal is bad/lazy.
    Being lazy is bad.
    If you're not dpsing and your party members don't drop like flies, you're most likely doing one of the above. Which is not "minimal good", it's just plain bad.


    Saying bad players exist only in failed duties, is like saying that every player of a sports team (doesn't matter if professional or just for fun) is good, just because the team won. Hell, no.
    A team can win, even if one of their players never touched the ball or didn't even attempt to go for the ball. And no.. this one isn't called "minimal good" play then.

    Same in dungeons... if you're a SCH in some dungeons (with proper dps/tank) you can acutally do almost nothing. As a dps, you almost never fail a dungeon (unless you got kicked), if you don't attack at all, because 3 ppl are enough to clear any dungeon. So, if I auto-follow the tank and we still clear the dungeon, my auto-following was a "minimal good" strategy? Never ever.

    Also we're not talking about "new players", "inexperienced players", because I think that the healers in this thread, mentioning they never dps, are neither new nor inexperienced.

    "Minimal good" isn't a proper term, even... So Cure III single target (which still makes the target survive) is just "minimal good"? I always thought it's bad.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 02-10-2017 at 05:26 PM.

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    Koda Ko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Also I don't get why people judge the players instead of their actions.
    Doing nothing is bad/lazy.
    Doing overheal is bad/lazy.
    Being lazy is bad.
    If you're not dpsing and your party members don't drop like flies, you're most likely doing one of the above. Which is not "minimal good", it's just plain bad.
    Insert ~Apply cold water to that burn~ meme
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